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From: Arfa Daily on 25 Jun 2010 04:21 "Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in message news:2f8826t10b3jpvt5pbh49up09gtvj7u0cd(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:39:20 +0100, "Arfa Daily" > <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >>Has anyone else on here got a 2G that they've updated to OS4, and are >>having >>similar problems ? > > Not me. > > Is yours jailbroken or stock? If jailbroken, there's a possibility > that they may be problems. Too soon to tell. > > I have an iPod Touch 2G (not jailbroken) and did the update Tues > evening. The only problem I had was that Google Calendar and Gmail > wouldn't work, because the Google servers were totally overloaded with > all the iOS 4 updates. If you're carrying a huge amount of Google > Apps data on your iPod Touch, it might have been set to push data > every 15 mins, failing, and retrying endlessly. It started working > today so I would suggest you give it a 2nd chance. > > > > > -- > # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 > # 831-336-2558 > # http://802.11junk.com jeffl(a)cruzio.com > # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS Not jailbroken. Just off-the-shelf vanilla. Has mostly just music on it. Some third party games and apps, some paid for, some freebies. Most have been on there for a long time, with the exception of a game I put on there last week called "wake the box". It's a lot of fun - try it. My wife has the same app, and she does not seem to be suffering this battery problem, so I don't think it's that. Anyway, it makes no use of the 'net or location services, and doesn't seem to leave anything behind and running when you exit, according to the system monitor utility that I put on there (after the problem started occurring, so not being caused by that app either). I don't knowingly have huge amounts - if indeed any - Google Apps on it. Although thinking about it, I do have Google Earth, but it hasn't been opened since the update. For the moment, I'm going to leave the wifi and location services switched off, and see what happens. If that is ok, then I will put the wifi back on, and see how it goes then, and report back. Arfa
From: Bruce Esquibel on 25 Jun 2010 09:17 Arfa Daily <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Has anyone else on here got a 2G that they've updated to OS4, and are having > similar problems ? Anyone got any ideas what is going on ? Looking on the > net, there would seem to be some issues, and a few people have mentioned > battery life problems that they didn't have before. A full "restore" > operation has been suggested. I tried that, but it bombed out half way > through with an "error" ... :-( It's also been suggested that you can > reload a previous firmware version, so another question. Does anyone know > what the last build number was, which is presumably what I had as I had > always done the updates as they became available ? I updated mine (2g 16gb ipod) but don't seem to have a battery problem. One thing I did notice after the update, check Settings -> Notifications and make sure that is off. If enabled, it will keep the wifi always on, even when sleeping. I never used that push notification stuff and always had it off, seems like after the update, it was enabled by default. That error with the backup/restore is a common story, seems like a lot of people ran into it, including myself. The apps and settings (including mail and wifi) all were intact but lost all the music, playlists and videos. Plus it took an abnormal amount of time to end up in a crash/error, better than 3 hours. I don't think you can go back to 3.1.2 or 3.1.3, even if you find the ipsw, apple isn't "signing" them to be installed. The main comment I wanted to make was, it just could be a battery fail problem. 3 people I know with the iPods (two 3rd gen, one 2nd) within the last year, meaning the two within 4-6 months of purchase, the battery just failed on them. They charge it overnight, next morning it only has like 20-30%, goes empty in 15 minutes. If it's within the one year warranty, apple will swap it out with a new unit, if you do the song and dance to make an appointment for the "genius bar". There wasn't any warning with any of them, just fails instantly. -bruce bje(a)ripco.com
From: Arfa Daily on 25 Jun 2010 09:44 "Bruce Esquibel" <bje(a)ripco.com> wrote in message news:i02a9v$nav$1(a)remote5bge0.ripco.com... > Arfa Daily <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Has anyone else on here got a 2G that they've updated to OS4, and are >> having >> similar problems ? Anyone got any ideas what is going on ? Looking on the >> net, there would seem to be some issues, and a few people have mentioned >> battery life problems that they didn't have before. A full "restore" >> operation has been suggested. I tried that, but it bombed out half way >> through with an "error" ... :-( It's also been suggested that you can >> reload a previous firmware version, so another question. Does anyone know >> what the last build number was, which is presumably what I had as I had >> always done the updates as they became available ? > > I updated mine (2g 16gb ipod) but don't seem to have a battery problem. > > One thing I did notice after the update, check Settings -> Notifications > and > make sure that is off. If enabled, it will keep the wifi always on, even > when sleeping. I never used that push notification stuff and always had it > off, seems like after the update, it was enabled by default. > > That error with the backup/restore is a common story, seems like a lot of > people ran into it, including myself. The apps and settings (including > and wifi) all were intact but lost all the music, playlists and videos. > Plus > it took an abnormal amount of time to end up in a crash/error, better than > 3 > hours. > > I don't think you can go back to 3.1.2 or 3.1.3, even if you find the > ipsw, > apple isn't "signing" them to be installed. > > The main comment I wanted to make was, it just could be a battery fail > problem. 3 people I know with the iPods (two 3rd gen, one 2nd) within the > last year, meaning the two within 4-6 months of purchase, the battery just > failed on them. They charge it overnight, next morning it only has like > 20-30%, goes empty in 15 minutes. If it's within the one year warranty, > apple will swap it out with a new unit, if you do the song and dance to > make > an appointment for the "genius bar". > > There wasn't any warning with any of them, just fails instantly. > > -bruce > bje(a)ripco.com Thanks for all the info Bruce. I will look into the "notifications" thing. So far, 6 hours after it came off charge, it's still reading 100%, which is how it was before the upgrade, so I definitely think that it is a wifi issue, and not the battery itself. The annoying thing is, that there is very little new functionality in iOS 4 that is runnable on a 2G, and some things that actually no longer work as they did. It's a pity that when iTunes informs you that there is new software available, it doesn't then make it clear that if you are below a 3G device, you might want to opt to just leave everything as it is. About the only new thing I can see, is being able to bundle apps into desktop folders. Well, I've lived without that since I've had it, and I doubt that I'll be using it now ... Arfa
From: Meat Plow on 25 Jun 2010 10:27 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:44:54 +0100, Arfa Daily ǝʇoɹʍ: > "Bruce Esquibel" <bje(a)ripco.com> wrote in message > news:i02a9v$nav$1(a)remote5bge0.ripco.com... >> Arfa Daily <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> Has anyone else on here got a 2G that they've updated to OS4, and are >>> having >>> similar problems ? Anyone got any ideas what is going on ? Looking on >>> the net, there would seem to be some issues, and a few people have >>> mentioned battery life problems that they didn't have before. A full >>> "restore" operation has been suggested. I tried that, but it bombed >>> out half way through with an "error" ... :-( It's also been >>> suggested that you can reload a previous firmware version, so another >>> question. Does anyone know what the last build number was, which is >>> presumably what I had as I had always done the updates as they became >>> available ? >> >> I updated mine (2g 16gb ipod) but don't seem to have a battery problem. >> >> One thing I did notice after the update, check Settings -> >> Notifications and >> make sure that is off. If enabled, it will keep the wifi always on, >> even when sleeping. I never used that push notification stuff and >> always had it off, seems like after the update, it was enabled by >> default. >> >> That error with the backup/restore is a common story, seems like a lot >> of people ran into it, including myself. The apps and settings >> (including mail >> and wifi) all were intact but lost all the music, playlists and videos. >> Plus >> it took an abnormal amount of time to end up in a crash/error, better >> than 3 >> hours. >> >> I don't think you can go back to 3.1.2 or 3.1.3, even if you find the >> ipsw, >> apple isn't "signing" them to be installed. >> >> The main comment I wanted to make was, it just could be a battery fail >> problem. 3 people I know with the iPods (two 3rd gen, one 2nd) within >> the last year, meaning the two within 4-6 months of purchase, the >> battery just failed on them. They charge it overnight, next morning it >> only has like 20-30%, goes empty in 15 minutes. If it's within the one >> year warranty, apple will swap it out with a new unit, if you do the >> song and dance to make >> an appointment for the "genius bar". >> >> There wasn't any warning with any of them, just fails instantly. >> >> -bruce >> bje(a)ripco.com > > Thanks for all the info Bruce. I will look into the "notifications" > thing. So far, 6 hours after it came off charge, it's still reading > 100%, which is how it was before the upgrade, so I definitely think that > it is a wifi issue, and not the battery itself. The annoying thing is, > that there is very little new functionality in iOS 4 that is runnable on > a 2G, and some things that actually no longer work as they did. It's a > pity that when iTunes informs you that there is new software available, > it doesn't then make it clear that if you are below a 3G device, you > might want to opt to just leave everything as it is. About the only new > thing I can see, is being able to bundle apps into desktop folders. > Well, I've lived without that since I've had it, and I doubt that I'll > be using it now ... > > Arfa I had a similar situation with my Blackberry. When they updated the OS the bluetooth suddenly ate the battery in about 10 hours. Before the phone could go for a week on standby. So I ended up disabling the BT until needed. About 3 months passed and there was a software update that addressed the BT issue and it worked. I was screwing around with my sister's ITouch yesterday. Nice little unit for sure. But now I own a Dell Mini and no longer desire an ITouch for myself. I wouldn't have been happy with something that was only half a computer anyway.
From: Jeffrey D Angus on 25 Jun 2010 12:46
Arfa Daily wrote: > > > "Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus(a)suddenlink.net> wrote in message > news:i00hh40bbq(a)news3.newsguy.com... >> Arfa Daily wrote: >>> Don't you just hate it when something that's been working >>> fine for a long time, suddenly starts suffering issues as >>> a result of an upgrade >> >> Oh, heh, you Apple people. We've had that for decades with >> Microsoft. About time you got on board. >> >> Jeff >> >> > > How do you arrive at me being an "Apple person" , Jeff ??? :-\ Apple OS4 on 2G Touch. Isn't that an Apple product running Apple software, or did they sub that out to Microsoft? ;-) Jeff -- �Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.� Frank Leahy, Head coach, Notre Dame 1941-1954 http://www.stay-connect.com |