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From: Dave Platt on 25 Jun 2010 15:29 In article <659826hohcqetb9r95ou6bhpptfgf6fqf4(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >I wrote this in about 1995, in honor of the rather ugly and failure >prone Windoze 3.1 to Win 95 upgrade cerimony. #chuckle# Nicely done! I remember the Doonesbury strips on that subject... "It's printing out a list of demands... it's dissing my machine!" -- Dave Platt <dplatt(a)radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
From: Arfa Daily on 25 Jun 2010 19:56 "Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus(a)suddenlink.net> wrote in message news:i02met01lp(a)news4.newsguy.com... > Arfa Daily wrote: >> >> >> "Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus(a)suddenlink.net> wrote in message >> news:i00hh40bbq(a)news3.newsguy.com... >>> Arfa Daily wrote: >>>> Don't you just hate it when something that's been working >>>> fine for a long time, suddenly starts suffering issues as >>>> a result of an upgrade >>> >>> Oh, heh, you Apple people. We've had that for decades with >>> Microsoft. About time you got on board. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >> >> How do you arrive at me being an "Apple person" , Jeff ??? :-\ > > Apple OS4 on 2G Touch. > Isn't that an Apple product running Apple software, or did > they sub that out to Microsoft? ;-) > > Jeff > Well, yeah, I suppose that is one product that I happen to own, but it's a bit of a leap from there to making me an "Apple person", isn't it ? ... Arfa
From: Arfa Daily on 25 Jun 2010 20:16 <snip> > I had a similar situation with my Blackberry. When they updated the OS > the bluetooth suddenly ate the battery in about 10 hours. Before the > phone could go for a week on standby. So I ended up disabling the BT > until needed. About 3 months passed and there was a software update that > addressed the BT issue and it worked. I was screwing around with my > sister's ITouch yesterday. Nice little unit for sure. But now I own a > Dell Mini and no longer desire an ITouch for myself. I wouldn't have been > happy with something that was only half a computer anyway. Well, I reckon that I've just about got it pinned down now. Unit idled asleep all day, and battery went down about 2% or so, so that was back to normal. So this evening, I turned the wifi back on, and connected to the TV news site that I use, then exited that app, connected to the iTunes store and had a little browse, then exited that app. I then left the unit for another couple of hours, and rechecked. The battery was just as I had left it, so the wifi had correctly gone back to sleep, when the online apps were exited. A while ago, I started up The Weather Channel desktop app, which I suspect is at the bottom of the trouble, and accessed some data. Now this app asks for permission to determine your location, via the 'net, by making use of the router data that Google have stolen from you, as they drove past your house with their camcars.. I usually just let the app go ahead and do this. Tonight, it had a bit of a cry that it couldn't ask me, because "Location Services" were turned off on the iPod. Having looked at a weather forecast, I exited the app, and again, all seems to be well. So, I'm now pretty sure that the issue is to do with this location determining malarky. If for whatever reason, it doesn't manage to complete the operation, it looks as though it keeps trying, which would be fair enough whilst the app is running. To be honest, I don't know if this has ever worked, because I don't actually know why the app needs to know where I am. Assuming that it doesn't complete, and keeps trying, it looks as though with iOS 4, the operation doesn't get cancelled when you exit the app, so the wifi transmitter stays active, rinsing your battery in a few hours. Presumably, this is an oversight / bug in iOS 4 that the previous version didn't have. I can't see any reason for the wifi transmitter staying active after an app has been dumped. As soon as you exit, any wifi activity associated with the app, should be immediately tidied up, and dropped. I think that for the moment, I'm just going to keep location services shut off, and if I load up any apps that definitely need it, decide on a per use basis whether to re-enable it. Arfa
From: Jeff Liebermann on 25 Jun 2010 21:51 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:21:15 +0100, "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >Not jailbroken. Just off-the-shelf vanilla. So much for that theory. >I don't knowingly have huge amounts - if indeed any - Google Apps on it. >Although thinking about it, I do have Google Earth, but it hasn't been >opened since the update. Google Earth should not cause problems. It's only Google Mail and possibly Calendar that might need to sync huge amounts of data. >For the moment, I'm going to leave the wifi and location services switched >off, and see what happens. If that is ok, then I will put the wifi back on, >and see how it goes then, and report back. iPhone and iPod touch: Understanding Location Services http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1975 The iPod Touch does NOT have GPS or 3G data. However, it can use Wi-Fi to obtain locations. I usually leave location services off on mine to save electrons. I just turned it on, fired up Google Maps while indoors, and it found me within about 300ft. Nice. However, there's no additional drain other than Wi-Fi. When the iPod Touch goes to snooze, the Wi-Fi goes into standby. I don't think this is the source of your mystery discharge. -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com jeffl(a)cruzio.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
From: Jeff Liebermann on 25 Jun 2010 22:09
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:51:35 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >iPhone and iPod touch: Understanding Location Services >http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1975 Incidentally, the iPhone and iPod Touch Wi-Fi based location services uses Skyhook: <http://www.skyhookwireless.com> which uses a database of known wi-fi access points. It found my office location because I had registered my access point long ago. -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com jeffl(a)cruzio.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS |