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From: John D Groenveld on 15 Apr 2010 11:42 In article <82o8d9Frn1U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Atip if you like keeping the old machine but neet more storage, install > a LSI SAS/SATA adapter then remove disk backplane from the E150 What's the part number for this HBA? >keeping just the cages, then install standard SATA drives and connect >them internally with standard cables, runns cooler that the SCSI drives >and you can frow above the 300GB SCA drive limit. Combined with a *BSD ZFS implementation, it might extend the useful life of the box for the OP. John groenveld(a)acm.org
From: Doug McIntyre on 15 Apr 2010 13:26 groenvel(a)cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) writes: >In article <82o8d9Frn1U1(a)mid.individual.net>, >Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>Atip if you like keeping the old machine but neet more storage, install >> a LSI SAS/SATA adapter then remove disk backplane from the E150 >What's the part number for this HBA? I suspect there isn't one. The E150 had an SBus expansion card backplane? If you had something like a E220R, it would have PCI slots. After the first series of machines, they were PCI and finding an LSI SAS/SATA controller for PCI is fairly easy. Sun worked closely with LSI to make most of them work well. If you had a system with a PCI bus, something like the LSI SAS 3080X-R is a PCI-X SAS/SATA controller supporting 8 SAS or SATA drives and with the right cabling should work.. But, AFAIK, FC HBAs are the best you are going to get for an E150.
From: andy thomas on 15 Apr 2010 14:04 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Doug McIntyre wrote: > groenvel(a)cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) writes: >> In article <82o8d9Frn1U1(a)mid.individual.net>, >> Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Atip if you like keeping the old machine but neet more storage, install >>> a LSI SAS/SATA adapter then remove disk backplane from the E150 > >> What's the part number for this HBA? > > I suspect there isn't one. The E150 had an SBus expansion card backplane? > If you had something like a E220R, it would have PCI slots. > > After the first series of machines, they were PCI and finding an LSI > SAS/SATA controller for PCI is fairly easy. Sun worked closely with > LSI to make most of them work well. > > If you had a system with a PCI bus, something like the LSI SAS 3080X-R > is a PCI-X SAS/SATA controller supporting 8 SAS or SATA drives and with > the right cabling should work.. > > But, AFAIK, FC HBAs are the best you are going to get for an E150. I'm not having any problems with the E150 and 80-pin SCA SCSI disks are still in plentiful supply (I'm using 300 GB disks) which are a lot more reliable than cheap SATA disks. But it's an SBus system with all 3 SBus slots in use so, as you point out, upgrade paths are limited - if the E150 should fail, I have an E450 to which I can simply move the disks over to and power up until the E150 is fixed. The E150 may only have a 170 MHz CPU but it's fine for scp'ing in backups from remote co-located servers over ADSL & cable broadband connections and dumping to DLT IV tapes. I also have an A1000 FC-AL array with spare SBus FC-AL HBAs but I haven't used these yet - apparently the JNI FC_AL SBus HBA is not supported under Sol 10 so I'd have to stay with Sol 9. If I ever had problems finding spare SCA SCSI disks in the future, I'd probably convert the E450 to use SAS disks with PCI SAS controllers as you suggest. cheers, Andy
From: Michael Laajanen on 15 Apr 2010 15:10 Hi, John D Groenveld wrote: > In article <82o8d9Frn1U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Atip if you like keeping the old machine but neet more storage, install >> a LSI SAS/SATA adapter then remove disk backplane from the E150 > > What's the part number for this HBA? > Sorry, I belived that it was PCI busses in it just like in the E250 (: SBUS is most likely hard to find with SAS/SATA HBA! /michael
From: Ceri Davies on 15 Apr 2010 16:37
On 2010-04-15, andy thomas <andy(a)ic.ac.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, John D Groenveld wrote: > >> In article <Pine.GSO.4.64.1004142316480.20369(a)anahata>, >> andy thomas <andy.thomas(a)ic.ac.uk> wrote: >>> whether these apply retrospectively to existing Solaris installations - >>> what is the situation where someone has bought the Solaris 9 media kit a >>> few years ago and installed this (or Solaris 10 from a registered >>> download) on a number of systems? >> >> IANAL nor a barrister but I assume that Oracle cannot change the >> EULA that you and Sun previously agreed to. > > That's what I thought. And I assume if I use the CDs from that media kit > today to install Sol 9 on another system I have bought on eBay, for > example, the EULA that was in force at the time I bought the media kit > would still be valid? Yes, although that EULA probably only allows you to install it on one system. Ceri -- That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere |