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From: DanR on 25 Feb 2007 09:37 There is a Roxio fix (link) posted on this forum and it works. I did this update and it works on my Dell. You'll have to search for it. I can now restart my computer without closing that error message 7 times. 14 clicks.
From: Hubert on 25 Feb 2007 10:56 Thank you so much for the informative post, Bill, I have the notice from Dell and also the one from Roxio. My feeling is that it is up to Dell to configure the preinstalled items in such a way thet there is NO conflict. I expect my brand new system to work without me, a customers, resolving an error. Should not Dell have checked their final hard drive image before sending them out to customers? As to whose fault it is, I could not care less. I thought that by now Dell would have changed their configuration so that this persistent error does not happen, that was the reason for my post. Errors do happen, I worked in computer programming since the early 50's until I retired, and I have seen (and made) a fair share. Well, maybe someone with a new system will tell us that this error is no longer appearing. Thanks again for the detailed post, Bill. Hubert. "Non-entity" wrote: > Sonic has assimilated Roxio; Sonic's name appears in Roxio products since > the merger, at times. > > The DLA issue has been a big mess, as there was no problem until Microsoft > issued a day 0 "fix" that made about 20? programs more compatible with > Vista - and yet marked the DLA driver Roxio (written by Sonic) as a "bad > driver." For many it causes non-stop "bad driver" error messages, and they > keep coming back. I don't know if this driver is used by anyone other than > Easy Media Creator 9, but it seems particularly difficult to get rid of. I > just installed the program and didn't see the message, though - I deselected > via custom install a lot of items in Easy Whatever that I don't use, and > BEFORE rebooting got rid of drag to disc - I think this is where the driver > gets installed. Fingers and toes crossed, this install won't be > problematical because I did remove drag-to-disc before rebooting after > install. Seems Roxio doesn't think much of MS doing a day 0 poatch (1/31) > that broke their program that DID work before the patch. There is also an > MSKB article that shows steps to remove the patch from MS, for now. > > You can read up on this on the Roxio message boards, look for support for > Easy Media Creator 9 - it was supposed to be Vista compliant. Now they are > going to evidently take their customer's good nature for granted and take > until April to release 9.1, at least that's what I saw in the support board > at roxio.com. > > If your Dell came with Roxio burning software, by all means call Dell. I > believe they have a file that will banish this troublesome driver for you. > > Roxio takes the stance that it's a "harmless" driver warning, however it > caused MSMAIL on my machine to stay resident in memory after being closed > (and so it wouldn't reopen unless the machine was rebooted). It also caused > Forte Agent Newsreader (no, don't use it often) to download everything at a > crawl - even just headers were slow. Removed all of Easy Whatever 9 and > both programs behaved normally. > > From all I've read of this, Dell has the answer for when you're already > getting the message in the form of a file (15 megs, don't know why so big) > that uninstalls the bad driver and other programs that were dependent on it > (like drag to disk). > > I don't have a Dell, but if you can't find this, at least check in the > message forums at roxio - the patch has been mentioned and the URL given. > It is likely Dell has Roxio s/w installed (and if Roxio is installed, then > Sonic is as well). > > Not many definitive answers around here about ANYTHING, frustrating, when > you're having problems. Calling MS support has only resulted in 4 1/2 hours > on the phone, most of them spent on hold; and their "bottom line" was to get > rid of this driver or the whole program, or whatever, but it was NOT A > MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Makes me feel like recommending Vista to all my friends > (not). I hate to admit they (MS) were right, but removing Easy Media > Creator 9 put my computer back to perfect working condition. > > I ran out of room for my last good XP image and had to erase it, else I'd be > going back to it for awhile. I thought this time would be different; with > the long lead times for Vista I thought s/w houses would have their stuff in > order THIS TIME (never has happened before, but I thought maybe THIS TIME). > I was wrong. I'm also waiting on Hewlitt Packard to release it's > comprehensive s/w package that goes along with my 7210 all-in-one printer. > I wonder how long it will be... > > > Bill Halvorsen > > > > > "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:u%233PJaJWHHA.5108(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > This sounds as if it's from someone who worked on Vista -- and is > > chagrined. > > > > DSH > > > > "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote in message > > news:%23hi6jDJWHHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > >> If not, you should perhaps spend less time here and more time on Sonic's > >> site flaming their products. > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:O4%23rAwHWHHA.5092(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > >>> Hmmmmmmm... > >>> > >>> Sonic DLA does NOT work in Vista? > >>> > >>> DSH > >>> > >>> "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>> news:1CDE47B7-677B-4243-BA8D-C1D312312B0B(a)microsoft.com... > >>> > >>>> Before purchasing a new Dell Vista equipped system I wonder whether any > >>>> readers here have purchased a system in the last 6 days and did NOT > >>>> have the > >>>> incompatibility problem? Maybe people without this problem do not read > >>>> this > >>>> post? > >>>> Well, I am trying. > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Hubert. > > > > > > >
From: D. Spencer Hines on 25 Feb 2007 11:19 How did you receive the notices from Dell and Roxio? I have a Dell with Sonic DLA installed and did not receive any notices. DSH "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:133F3F33-1D93-4A99-B393-5632CF518EFE(a)microsoft.com... > > Thank you so much for the informative post, Bill, I have the notice from > Dell and also the one from Roxio. My feeling is that it is up to Dell to > configure the preinstalled items in such a way thet there is NO conflict. > I > expect my brand new system to work without me, a customers, resolving an > error. Should not Dell have checked their final hard drive image before > sending them out to customers? As to whose fault it is, I could not care > less. I thought that by now Dell would have changed their configuration so > that this persistent error does not happen, that was the reason for my > post. > Errors do happen, I worked in computer programming since the early 50's > until > I retired, and I have seen (and made) a fair share. Well, maybe someone > with > a new system will tell us that this error is no longer appearing. Thanks > again for the detailed post, Bill. > Hubert.
From: Dale on 25 Feb 2007 11:23 Apparently, Sonic, like Apple, didn't get the memo that Microsoft was developing a new OS. Dale "Non-entity" <notavalidaddress(a)nonentitynohow.net> wrote in message news:OCzKtMKWHHA.4632(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Sonic has assimilated Roxio; Sonic's name appears in Roxio products since > the merger, at times. > > The DLA issue has been a big mess, as there was no problem until Microsoft > issued a day 0 "fix" that made about 20? programs more compatible with > Vista - and yet marked the DLA driver Roxio (written by Sonic) as a "bad > driver." For many it causes non-stop "bad driver" error messages, and > they keep coming back. I don't know if this driver is used by anyone > other than Easy Media Creator 9, but it seems particularly difficult to > get rid of. I just installed the program and didn't see the message, > though - I deselected via custom install a lot of items in Easy Whatever > that I don't use, and BEFORE rebooting got rid of drag to disc - I think > this is where the driver gets installed. Fingers and toes crossed, this > install won't be problematical because I did remove drag-to-disc before > rebooting after install. Seems Roxio doesn't think much of MS doing a day > 0 poatch (1/31) that broke their program that DID work before the patch. > There is also an MSKB article that shows steps to remove the patch from > MS, for now. > > You can read up on this on the Roxio message boards, look for support for > Easy Media Creator 9 - it was supposed to be Vista compliant. Now they > are going to evidently take their customer's good nature for granted and > take until April to release 9.1, at least that's what I saw in the support > board at roxio.com. > > If your Dell came with Roxio burning software, by all means call Dell. I > believe they have a file that will banish this troublesome driver for you. > > Roxio takes the stance that it's a "harmless" driver warning, however it > caused MSMAIL on my machine to stay resident in memory after being closed > (and so it wouldn't reopen unless the machine was rebooted). It also > caused Forte Agent Newsreader (no, don't use it often) to download > everything at a crawl - even just headers were slow. Removed all of Easy > Whatever 9 and both programs behaved normally. > > From all I've read of this, Dell has the answer for when you're already > getting the message in the form of a file (15 megs, don't know why so big) > that uninstalls the bad driver and other programs that were dependent on > it (like drag to disk). > > I don't have a Dell, but if you can't find this, at least check in the > message forums at roxio - the patch has been mentioned and the URL given. > It is likely Dell has Roxio s/w installed (and if Roxio is installed, then > Sonic is as well). > > Not many definitive answers around here about ANYTHING, frustrating, when > you're having problems. Calling MS support has only resulted in 4 1/2 > hours on the phone, most of them spent on hold; and their "bottom line" > was to get rid of this driver or the whole program, or whatever, but it > was NOT A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Makes me feel like recommending Vista to all > my friends (not). I hate to admit they (MS) were right, but removing Easy > Media Creator 9 put my computer back to perfect working condition. > > I ran out of room for my last good XP image and had to erase it, else I'd > be going back to it for awhile. I thought this time would be different; > with the long lead times for Vista I thought s/w houses would have their > stuff in order THIS TIME (never has happened before, but I thought maybe > THIS TIME). I was wrong. I'm also waiting on Hewlitt Packard to release > it's comprehensive s/w package that goes along with my 7210 all-in-one > printer. I wonder how long it will be... > > > Bill Halvorsen > > > > > "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:u%233PJaJWHHA.5108(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> This sounds as if it's from someone who worked on Vista -- and is >> chagrined. >> >> DSH >> >> "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote in message >> news:%23hi6jDJWHHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>> If not, you should perhaps spend less time here and more time on Sonic's >>> site flaming their products. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:O4%23rAwHWHHA.5092(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >>>> Hmmmmmmm... >>>> >>>> Sonic DLA does NOT work in Vista? >>>> >>>> DSH >>>> >>>> "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1CDE47B7-677B-4243-BA8D-C1D312312B0B(a)microsoft.com... >>>> >>>>> Before purchasing a new Dell Vista equipped system I wonder whether >>>>> any >>>>> readers here have purchased a system in the last 6 days and did NOT >>>>> have the >>>>> incompatibility problem? Maybe people without this problem do not read >>>>> this >>>>> post? >>>>> Well, I am trying. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Hubert. >> >> > >
From: Dale on 25 Feb 2007 11:25
The whole signed driver thing for the audio and CD thing is, as I understand it, all part of the DRM features in Vista. DRM sucks. But Sonic knew it was coming. The problem with Sonic incompatibility is Sonic's fault, not Microsoft's. Dale "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:up1KcjKWHHA.4404(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > VERY fine post. > > Yes, I have a Dell XPS system, AM using Sonic drag to disc -- and I use it > often. > > Well, no "upgrade" to Vista for ME for a while. > > Thank you very much for your post. > > Day 0 "fix"... > > That's appalling. > > DSH > > "Non-entity" <notavalidaddress(a)nonentitynohow.net> wrote in message > news:OCzKtMKWHHA.4632(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> Sonic has assimilated Roxio; Sonic's name appears in Roxio products since >> the merger, at times. >> >> The DLA issue has been a big mess, as there was no problem until >> Microsoft issued a day 0 "fix" that made about 20? programs more >> compatible with Vista - and yet marked the DLA driver Roxio (written by >> Sonic) as a "bad driver." For many it causes non-stop "bad driver" error >> messages, and they keep coming back. I don't know if this driver is used >> by anyone other than Easy Media Creator 9, but it seems particularly >> difficult to get rid of. I just installed the program and didn't see the >> message, though - I deselected via custom install a lot of items in Easy >> Whatever that I don't use, and BEFORE rebooting got rid of drag to disc - >> I think this is where the driver gets installed. Fingers and toes >> crossed, this install won't be problematical because I did remove >> drag-to-disc before rebooting after install. Seems Roxio doesn't think >> much of MS doing a day 0 poatch (1/31) that broke their program that DID >> work before the patch. There is also an MSKB article that shows steps to >> remove the patch from MS, for now. >> >> You can read up on this on the Roxio message boards, look for support for >> Easy Media Creator 9 - it was supposed to be Vista compliant. Now they >> are going to evidently take their customer's good nature for granted and >> take until April to release 9.1, at least that's what I saw in the >> support board at roxio.com. >> >> If your Dell came with Roxio burning software, by all means call Dell. I >> believe they have a file that will banish this troublesome driver for >> you. >> >> Roxio takes the stance that it's a "harmless" driver warning, however it >> caused MSMAIL on my machine to stay resident in memory after being closed >> (and so it wouldn't reopen unless the machine was rebooted). It also >> caused Forte Agent Newsreader (no, don't use it often) to download >> everything at a crawl - even just headers were slow. Removed all of Easy >> Whatever 9 and both programs behaved normally. >> >> From all I've read of this, Dell has the answer for when you're already >> getting the message in the form of a file (15 megs, don't know why so >> big) that uninstalls the bad driver and other programs that were >> dependent on it (like drag to disk). >> >> I don't have a Dell, but if you can't find this, at least check in the >> message forums at roxio - the patch has been mentioned and the URL given. >> It is likely Dell has Roxio s/w installed (and if Roxio is installed, >> then Sonic is as well). >> >> Not many definitive answers around here about ANYTHING, frustrating, when >> you're having problems. Calling MS support has only resulted in 4 1/2 >> hours on the phone, most of them spent on hold; and their "bottom line" >> was to get rid of this driver or the whole program, or whatever, but it >> was NOT A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Makes me feel like recommending Vista to >> all my friends (not). I hate to admit they (MS) were right, but removing >> Easy Media Creator 9 put my computer back to perfect working condition. >> >> I ran out of room for my last good XP image and had to erase it, else I'd >> be going back to it for awhile. I thought this time would be different; >> with the long lead times for Vista I thought s/w houses would have their >> stuff in order THIS TIME (never has happened before, but I thought maybe >> THIS TIME). I was wrong. I'm also waiting on Hewlitt Packard to release >> it's comprehensive s/w package that goes along with my 7210 all-in-one >> printer. I wonder how long it will be... >> >> >> Bill Halvorsen >> >> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:u%233PJaJWHHA.5108(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>> This sounds as if it's from someone who worked on Vista -- and is >>> chagrined. >>> >>> DSH >>> >>> "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote in message >>> news:%23hi6jDJWHHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>>> If not, you should perhaps spend less time here and more time on >>>> Sonic's site flaming their products. >>>> >>>> Dale >>>> >>>> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:O4%23rAwHWHHA.5092(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>> Hmmmmmmm... >>>>> >>>>> Sonic DLA does NOT work in Vista? >>>>> >>>>> DSH >>>>> >>>>> "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:1CDE47B7-677B-4243-BA8D-C1D312312B0B(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> >>>>>> Before purchasing a new Dell Vista equipped system I wonder whether >>>>>> any >>>>>> readers here have purchased a system in the last 6 days and did NOT >>>>>> have the >>>>>> incompatibility problem? Maybe people without this problem do not >>>>>> read this >>>>>> post? >>>>>> Well, I am trying. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Hubert. > > |