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From: D. Spencer Hines on 25 Feb 2007 11:53 Here we go again! Finger pointing between the two corporations.... Leaving the sorry-rear-ended consumer caught in the middle and out of luck for a while.... Another Good Argument for not leaping to jump on the bandwagon of a New OS. DSH "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote in message news:edFoXmPWHHA.4404(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > The whole signed driver thing for the audio and CD thing is, as I > understand it, all part of the DRM features in Vista. DRM sucks. But > Sonic knew it was coming. The problem with Sonic incompatibility is > Sonic's fault, not Microsoft's. > > Dale > > "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:up1KcjKWHHA.4404(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> VERY fine post. >> >> Yes, I have a Dell XPS system, AM using Sonic drag to disc -- and I use >> it often. >> >> Well, no "upgrade" to Vista for ME for a while. >> >> Thank you very much for your post. >> >> Day 0 "fix"... >> >> That's appalling. >> >> DSH >> >> "Non-entity" <notavalidaddress(a)nonentitynohow.net> wrote in message >> news:OCzKtMKWHHA.4632(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >>> Sonic has assimilated Roxio; Sonic's name appears in Roxio products >>> since the merger, at times. >>> >>> The DLA issue has been a big mess, as there was no problem until >>> Microsoft issued a day 0 "fix" that made about 20? programs more >>> compatible with Vista - and yet marked the DLA driver Roxio (written by >>> Sonic) as a "bad driver." For many it causes non-stop "bad driver" >>> error messages, and they keep coming back. I don't know if this driver >>> is used by anyone other than Easy Media Creator 9, but it seems >>> particularly difficult to get rid of. I just installed the program and >>> didn't see the message, though - I deselected via custom install a lot >>> of items in Easy Whatever that I don't use, and BEFORE rebooting got rid >>> of drag to disc - I think this is where the driver gets installed. >>> Fingers and toes crossed, this install won't be problematical because I >>> did remove drag-to-disc before rebooting after install. Seems Roxio >>> doesn't think much of MS doing a day 0 poatch (1/31) that broke their >>> program that DID work before the patch. There is also an MSKB article >>> that shows steps to remove the patch from MS, for now. >>> >>> You can read up on this on the Roxio message boards, look for support >>> for Easy Media Creator 9 - it was supposed to be Vista compliant. Now >>> they are going to evidently take their customer's good nature for >>> granted and take until April to release 9.1, at least that's what I saw >>> in the support board at roxio.com. >>> >>> If your Dell came with Roxio burning software, by all means call Dell. >>> I believe they have a file that will banish this troublesome driver for >>> you. >>> >>> Roxio takes the stance that it's a "harmless" driver warning, however it >>> caused MSMAIL on my machine to stay resident in memory after being >>> closed (and so it wouldn't reopen unless the machine was rebooted). It >>> also caused Forte Agent Newsreader (no, don't use it often) to download >>> everything at a crawl - even just headers were slow. Removed all of >>> Easy Whatever 9 and both programs behaved normally. >>> >>> From all I've read of this, Dell has the answer for when you're already >>> getting the message in the form of a file (15 megs, don't know why so >>> big) that uninstalls the bad driver and other programs that were >>> dependent on it (like drag to disk). >>> >>> I don't have a Dell, but if you can't find this, at least check in the >>> message forums at roxio - the patch has been mentioned and the URL >>> given. It is likely Dell has Roxio s/w installed (and if Roxio is >>> installed, then Sonic is as well). >>> >>> Not many definitive answers around here about ANYTHING, frustrating, >>> when you're having problems. Calling MS support has only resulted in 4 >>> 1/2 hours on the phone, most of them spent on hold; and their "bottom >>> line" was to get rid of this driver or the whole program, or whatever, >>> but it was NOT A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Makes me feel like recommending >>> Vista to all my friends (not). I hate to admit they (MS) were right, >>> but removing Easy Media Creator 9 put my computer back to perfect >>> working condition. >>> >>> I ran out of room for my last good XP image and had to erase it, else >>> I'd be going back to it for awhile. I thought this time would be >>> different; with the long lead times for Vista I thought s/w houses would >>> have their stuff in order THIS TIME (never has happened before, but I >>> thought maybe THIS TIME). I was wrong. I'm also waiting on Hewlitt >>> Packard to release it's comprehensive s/w package that goes along with >>> my 7210 all-in-one printer. I wonder how long it will be... >>> >>> >>> Bill Halvorsen
From: Hubert on 25 Feb 2007 11:57 I did not express myself clearly enough, I went to the Dell site and also to the Roxio site and each had a notice with instructions to eliminate the error message. In the Roxio answer there is this comment un der "Cause": "Through a clerical error. a driver is incorrectly being blocked as incompatible with Windows Vista. In fact all Easy Media Creator 9 products including the latest version of MyDVD and Record Now are fully compatible with Windows Vista". Thanks for your post, Hubert. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: > How did you receive the notices from Dell and Roxio? > > I have a Dell with Sonic DLA installed and did not receive any notices. > > DSH > > "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:133F3F33-1D93-4A99-B393-5632CF518EFE(a)microsoft.com... > > > > Thank you so much for the informative post, Bill, I have the notice from > > Dell and also the one from Roxio. My feeling is that it is up to Dell to > > configure the preinstalled items in such a way thet there is NO conflict. > > I > > expect my brand new system to work without me, a customers, resolving an > > error. Should not Dell have checked their final hard drive image before > > sending them out to customers? As to whose fault it is, I could not care > > less. I thought that by now Dell would have changed their configuration so > > that this persistent error does not happen, that was the reason for my > > post. > > Errors do happen, I worked in computer programming since the early 50's > > until > > I retired, and I have seen (and made) a fair share. Well, maybe someone > > with > > a new system will tell us that this error is no longer appearing. Thanks > > again for the detailed post, Bill. > > > Hubert. > > >
From: Leonard F Kiesling on 25 Feb 2007 12:09 from my reply to post of: wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:00 PM Re: This driver is blocked due to compatibility issues - Sonic Solutions had problem with new dell vista home premium desktop. only answering as a dell system customer, & their fix which worked for me. first area i searched was this forum: http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=vista&thread.id=8536 (page six has answer) in the forum was a link to roxio. it discusses cause: http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/Creator/000131CR (this page loads slowly) the dell fix is here: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=us&docid=2872567F1A1D49A3E040A68F5B28196E&journalid=18940F4FBEEB11DB9DC1AF19BD307B73&l=en&s=gen i'm offering my experience only with a new dell system, e521 model. i am not experienced enough to offer tech advice. i come here for that. only trying to pay back for what these microsoft newsgroups have given so freely to me! thank you. len kiesling "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:133F3F33-1D93-4A99-B393-5632CF518EFE(a)microsoft.com... > > Thank you so much for the informative post, Bill, I have the notice from > Dell and also the one from Roxio. My feeling is that it is up to Dell to > configure the preinstalled items in such a way thet there is NO conflict. > I > expect my brand new system to work without me, a customers, resolving an > error. Should not Dell have checked their final hard drive image before > sending them out to customers? As to whose fault it is, I could not care > less. I thought that by now Dell would have changed their configuration so > that this persistent error does not happen, that was the reason for my > post. > Errors do happen, I worked in computer programming since the early 50's > until > I retired, and I have seen (and made) a fair share. Well, maybe someone > with > a new system will tell us that this error is no longer appearing. Thanks > again for the detailed post, Bill. > Hubert. > > "Non-entity" wrote: > >> Sonic has assimilated Roxio; Sonic's name appears in Roxio products since >> the merger, at times. >> >> The DLA issue has been a big mess, as there was no problem until >> Microsoft >> issued a day 0 "fix" that made about 20? programs more compatible with >> Vista - and yet marked the DLA driver Roxio (written by Sonic) as a "bad >> driver." For many it causes non-stop "bad driver" error messages, and >> they >> keep coming back. I don't know if this driver is used by anyone other >> than >> Easy Media Creator 9, but it seems particularly difficult to get rid of. >> I >> just installed the program and didn't see the message, though - I >> deselected >> via custom install a lot of items in Easy Whatever that I don't use, and >> BEFORE rebooting got rid of drag to disc - I think this is where the >> driver >> gets installed. Fingers and toes crossed, this install won't be >> problematical because I did remove drag-to-disc before rebooting after >> install. Seems Roxio doesn't think much of MS doing a day 0 poatch >> (1/31) >> that broke their program that DID work before the patch. There is also >> an >> MSKB article that shows steps to remove the patch from MS, for now. >> >> You can read up on this on the Roxio message boards, look for support for >> Easy Media Creator 9 - it was supposed to be Vista compliant. Now they >> are >> going to evidently take their customer's good nature for granted and take >> until April to release 9.1, at least that's what I saw in the support >> board >> at roxio.com. >> >> If your Dell came with Roxio burning software, by all means call Dell. I >> believe they have a file that will banish this troublesome driver for >> you. >> >> Roxio takes the stance that it's a "harmless" driver warning, however it >> caused MSMAIL on my machine to stay resident in memory after being closed >> (and so it wouldn't reopen unless the machine was rebooted). It also >> caused >> Forte Agent Newsreader (no, don't use it often) to download everything at >> a >> crawl - even just headers were slow. Removed all of Easy Whatever 9 and >> both programs behaved normally. >> >> From all I've read of this, Dell has the answer for when you're already >> getting the message in the form of a file (15 megs, don't know why so >> big) >> that uninstalls the bad driver and other programs that were dependent on >> it >> (like drag to disk). >> >> I don't have a Dell, but if you can't find this, at least check in the >> message forums at roxio - the patch has been mentioned and the URL given. >> It is likely Dell has Roxio s/w installed (and if Roxio is installed, >> then >> Sonic is as well). >> >> Not many definitive answers around here about ANYTHING, frustrating, when >> you're having problems. Calling MS support has only resulted in 4 1/2 >> hours >> on the phone, most of them spent on hold; and their "bottom line" was to >> get >> rid of this driver or the whole program, or whatever, but it was NOT A >> MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Makes me feel like recommending Vista to all my >> friends >> (not). I hate to admit they (MS) were right, but removing Easy Media >> Creator 9 put my computer back to perfect working condition. >> >> I ran out of room for my last good XP image and had to erase it, else I'd >> be >> going back to it for awhile. I thought this time would be different; >> with >> the long lead times for Vista I thought s/w houses would have their stuff >> in >> order THIS TIME (never has happened before, but I thought maybe THIS >> TIME). >> I was wrong. I'm also waiting on Hewlitt Packard to release it's >> comprehensive s/w package that goes along with my 7210 all-in-one >> printer. >> I wonder how long it will be... >> >> >> Bill Halvorsen >> >> >> >> >> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:u%233PJaJWHHA.5108(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > This sounds as if it's from someone who worked on Vista -- and is >> > chagrined. >> > >> > DSH >> > >> > "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote in message >> > news:%23hi6jDJWHHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> > >> >> If not, you should perhaps spend less time here and more time on >> >> Sonic's >> >> site flaming their products. >> >> >> >> Dale >> >> >> >> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:O4%23rAwHWHHA.5092(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > >> >>> Hmmmmmmm... >> >>> >> >>> Sonic DLA does NOT work in Vista? >> >>> >> >>> DSH >> >>> >> >>> "Hubert" <Hubert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >>> news:1CDE47B7-677B-4243-BA8D-C1D312312B0B(a)microsoft.com... >> >>> >> >>>> Before purchasing a new Dell Vista equipped system I wonder whether >> >>>> any >> >>>> readers here have purchased a system in the last 6 days and did NOT >> >>>> have the >> >>>> incompatibility problem? Maybe people without this problem do not >> >>>> read >> >>>> this >> >>>> post? >> >>>> Well, I am trying. >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> Hubert. >> > >> > >> >> >>
From: Adam Albright on 25 Feb 2007 12:24 On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:25:19 -0600, "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote: >The whole signed driver thing for the audio and CD thing is, as I understand >it, all part of the DRM features in Vista. DRM sucks. But Sonic knew it >was coming. The problem with Sonic incompatibility is Sonic's fault, not >Microsoft's. How much you get paid for being a Microsoft shill Dale?
From: Dale on 25 Feb 2007 12:45
Read my comments in the thread about gadgets. Or in any thread about DRM. Or read where the Microsoft employee who plays distracter in the Windows Media Player groups calls me evil. I'm not a Microsoft shill at all. But this is not a case of each company pointing their finger and neither taking responsibility. This is definitely Sonic's responsibility. They new it was coming. Dale "Adam Albright" <AA(a)ABC.net> wrote in message news:bhh3u2po3su3mi1df82j16o471o2aqa2ap(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:25:19 -0600, "Dale" <nospam(a)nospam.ever> wrote: > >>The whole signed driver thing for the audio and CD thing is, as I >>understand >>it, all part of the DRM features in Vista. DRM sucks. But Sonic knew it >>was coming. The problem with Sonic incompatibility is Sonic's fault, not >>Microsoft's. > > How much you get paid for being a Microsoft shill Dale? > > |