From: Uwe Bonnes on 3 Nov 2005 15:25 Peter Alfke <peter(a)xilinx.com> wrote: .... > December is the month... Which year ;-) -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
From: Antti Lukats on 3 Nov 2005 15:30 "Uwe Bonnes" <bon(a)hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:dkdroi$si4$1(a)lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de... > Peter Alfke <peter(a)xilinx.com> wrote: > ... >> December is the month... > > Which year ;-) > > -- > Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de > > Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt > --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ---------- Uwe, December is the month every year, but its 2005 to get real Christmas presents from Xilinx. S3e is WAY best FPGA around, so if we have to wait a little more lets try todo wait in piece, this goes more tomyself and my kinda angry comments about s3e availability, I am sometimes like a boy who wants its presents too early. Antti
From: Jim Granville on 3 Nov 2005 15:56 Summary of this thread : Peter Alfke wrote: > I promised an answer. The digging took a bit longer... > > The good news is that Xilinx has many thousands of S3e100 in TQ144, and > hundreds in vq100 packages, as well as many S3500 in several packages. > The bad new is that -today- these parts are still ES ("early silicon") > which distribution hates to touch, because the parts will become > obsolete very soon, once the production version becomes available. > > If you need them immediately, order them through your distributor or > your Xilinx sales folks. And realize that "6 to 8 weeks" is often > exaggerated. Or the Xilinx web store ? - All that infrastructure, going to waste.... > > Production S3e100 and 500s are expected this month, and 1600 soon > after. And the distis will love to sell them (which they consider their > job, even in Europe !). And they WILL be on the fast track to the Web-Store (surely?) ? > > I have held the almost final version of the S3e500-based evaluation > board in my hand. It is dynamite, loaded with features and peripherl > circuits, compatible with a slew of inexpensive Digilent add-on boards. > Availability starts in December. Well before that, there will be a > business-card-size eval board, packaged in a DVD-case, meant as a > super-low-cost S3e100 demonstrator. "Well before" December is March, so I guess now we are in November, i.e. "really close' to December, the info on that nice sounding super-low-cost S3e100 demonstrator, is being posted on the web as I write ? - Photos, users manuals, actual Prices, usual stuff.... -jg
From: Brian Davis on 3 Nov 2005 23:06 Peter wrote: > > your older comments must have fallen on good ears > I suspect Steven Knapp's past comments on the I/O connector grounding were far more effective than mine... > > The S3e500-based evaluation board uses a two-row 100-pin connector with > (almost) one whole row dedicated to Ground. > Great!!! Is that the Hirose 100 pin as used on the XUP-V2Pro board? > > Plus two legacy connectors that are much smaller. > OK; the S3E board webpage description says "three 40-Pin Expansion Connection Ports", which is what had me worried about high-speed I/O. > > The manual is still being written, and I offered some help. > Even a rough draft with schematics & connector pinouts would let folks get a head start on designs. thanks, Brian
From: Peter Alfke on 4 Nov 2005 18:47
Guys, let's make a deal: I give you a bit more, more early, and more honest information than you can read in the press releases. You, in turn, stop molesting and attacking me whenever I write anything about dates and avilability. I am not in marketing, but I am reasonably honest, and I believe in what I write (or I just don't write about it.) Isn't that good enough? Peter |