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From: Jerry on 5 Jul 2005 08:46 Henri Wilson wrote: > On 4 Jul 2005 18:11:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >Turner, JAAVSO Volume 26, 1998 101 > >MONITORING THE EVOLUTION OF CEPHEID VARIABLES > >http://www.aavso.org/publications/journal/v26n2/turner.pdf > >VLTI watches the pulsation of four southern Cepheids > >--------------------------------------------------------- > >Thanks to the very high spatial resolution of the VLTI > >interferometer, a team of french astronomers led by Pierre > >Kervella from Paris Observatory, has measured directly the > >change of size of four Cepheids, during their pulsation cycle. > >http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/oct04/cep.en.shtml > > You are getting desperate > > Nothing here conflicts with the BaT Henri, the above reports on direct measurements of size changes on four Cepheids. Get it? The stars PULSATE. > > Polaris: Amplitude, Period Change, and Companions > > Polaris also has a rapidly changing period (3.2 s yr-1), > > You ARE getting desperate. Nope. 3.2 seconds per year secular variation means the period changes by 32 seconds over ten years, or 5 minutes over a century. These are quite typical of Cepheids. > > Study of period changes for 38 RR Lyrae variables in the > > globular cluster M15 > I will not comment of Lyrae stars because I don't yet have a > theory about them. Nor does anyone else, it seems. RR Lyrae stars form a continuous series with the Cepheids on the HR diagram. They are short period < 1 day, while Cepheids are > 1 day period. The same theories apply to RR Lyrae as to Cepheids. Period noise is extremely noticeable in these short period stars. It's also interesting to calculate what their orbital parameters need to be within the context of BaT. > > Period changes of Cepheid variables. I - Secular period changes > >Secular period changes of one hundred northern Cepheids are > >investigated with the help of O-C diagrams. With the classical > >Cepheids the rate of observed period changes is in good > >agreement with that determined from stellar evolution theory. > >The period noise cannot mask the evolutionary period changes > >especially in longer period Cepheids for which the occurrence > >of parabolic O-C graphs is unusually frequent. > > What makes you think that light speed remains constant from > star to Earth over even a five day period? > The part of space through which the light has to travel might > be quite different, eg, feature a gas cloud, or something > like that. That would be enough to explaoin the 'noise'. It > is a long distance analogy of the Earth's atmoshere causing > stars to 'twinkle'. At least you now acknowledge that period noise is real and needs to be explained. Just a few days ago, you were denying its very existence, and claimed that I was making it all up. That's an improvement. > I repeat, you are getting desperate. > > Everything you say gives me more ideas and strengthens the BaT. > > One day and with your continued 'assistance', I will be able > to write a formal paper. So long as you continue to deny the truth, it's all "in your dreams". Jerry
From: Henri Wilson on 5 Jul 2005 16:34 On 5 Jul 2005 01:46:12 -0700, "G" <gehan(a)dialog.lk> wrote: > > >Henri Wilson wrote: >> On 4 Jul 2005 18:11:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> What makes you think that light speed remains constant from star to Earth over >> even a five day period? >> The part of space through which the light has to travel might be quite >> different, eg, feature a gas cloud, or something like that. >> That would be enough to explaoin the 'noise'. It is a long distance analogy of >> the Earth's atmoshere causing stars to 'twinkle'. > >Henri, it may interest you to know, or you may already know that the >atmosphere inteferes >witht the GPS satellite system and the time taken from the radio >signals > from ground to earth varies to the extent that it is "manually" >corrected for. >The speed of radio waves from ground to satellite and back are not >taken as >travelling at c. That will certainly interest the SRians. Did you know that frequency of the radio signals does not change, even though their speed does. >> >> I repeat, you are getting desperate. >> >> Everything you say gives me more ideas and strengthens the BaT. > >Have you ever given the postulates of Bat as AE did with SRT? If it is >an >previous post just tell me and I will search. > >I am one of those "first principles" people The postulate of the BaT is that light initially travels at c wrt its source. It travels at c+v wrt other objects moving at -v wrt the source. HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: Henri Wilson on 5 Jul 2005 16:42 On 5 Jul 2005 05:46:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: >Henri Wilson wrote: >> On 4 Jul 2005 18:11:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> >Turner, JAAVSO Volume 26, 1998 101 >> >MONITORING THE EVOLUTION OF CEPHEID VARIABLES >> >http://www.aavso.org/publications/journal/v26n2/turner.pdf > > >> >VLTI watches the pulsation of four southern Cepheids >> >--------------------------------------------------------- >> >Thanks to the very high spatial resolution of the VLTI >> >interferometer, a team of french astronomers led by Pierre >> >Kervella from Paris Observatory, has measured directly the >> >change of size of four Cepheids, during their pulsation cycle. >> >http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/oct04/cep.en.shtml >> >> You are getting desperate >> >> Nothing here conflicts with the BaT > >Henri, the above reports on direct measurements of size changes >on four Cepheids. Get it? The stars PULSATE. Yes Jerry, yes.... of course, Jerry. Now be a good girl and eat up your cereal. > >> > Polaris: Amplitude, Period Change, and Companions >> >> Polaris also has a rapidly changing period (3.2 s yr-1), >> >> You ARE getting desperate. > >Nope. >3.2 seconds per year secular variation means the period >changes by 32 seconds over ten years, or 5 minutes over >a century. These are quite typical of Cepheids. and quite typical of a BaT prediction. >> > Study of period changes for 38 RR Lyrae variables in the >> > globular cluster M15 > >> I will not comment of Lyrae stars because I don't yet have a >> theory about them. Nor does anyone else, it seems. > >RR Lyrae stars form a continuous series with the Cepheids >on the HR diagram. They are short period < 1 day, while >Cepheids are > 1 day period. The same theories apply to >RR Lyrae as to Cepheids. Period noise is extremely noticeable >in these short period stars. It's also interesting to calculate >what their orbital parameters need to be within the context >of BaT. I said I wont comment...except to say that they are probably smallish hot stars with a satellite neutron star or WCH. I forecast that a new type of small bright star will be discovered soon. For instance, when a neutron star is forming, does it glow very brightly before gravity eventually exceeds the escape velocity? >> > Period changes of Cepheid variables. I - Secular period changes > >> >Secular period changes of one hundred northern Cepheids are >> >investigated with the help of O-C diagrams. With the classical >> >Cepheids the rate of observed period changes is in good >> >agreement with that determined from stellar evolution theory. >> >The period noise cannot mask the evolutionary period changes >> >especially in longer period Cepheids for which the occurrence >> >of parabolic O-C graphs is unusually frequent. >> >> What makes you think that light speed remains constant from >> star to Earth over even a five day period? >> The part of space through which the light has to travel might >> be quite different, eg, feature a gas cloud, or something >> like that. That would be enough to explaoin the 'noise'. It >> is a long distance analogy of the Earth's atmoshere causing >> stars to 'twinkle'. > >At least you now acknowledge that period noise is real and >needs to be explained. Just a few days ago, you were denying >its very existence, and claimed that I was making it all up. >That's an improvement. > >> I repeat, you are getting desperate. >> >> Everything you say gives me more ideas and strengthens the BaT. >> >> One day and with your continued 'assistance', I will be able >> to write a formal paper. > >So long as you continue to deny the truth, it's all >"in your dreams". ,,be a good girl now, the doctor will arrive soon.... > >Jerry HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: Jerry on 5 Jul 2005 18:25 Henri Wilson wrote: > On 5 Jul 2005 05:46:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >Henri Wilson wrote: > >> On 4 Jul 2005 18:11:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> >Turner, JAAVSO Volume 26, 1998 101 > >> >MONITORING THE EVOLUTION OF CEPHEID VARIABLES > >> >http://www.aavso.org/publications/journal/v26n2/turner.pdf > > > > > >> >VLTI watches the pulsation of four southern Cepheids > >> >--------------------------------------------------------- > >> >Thanks to the very high spatial resolution of the VLTI > >> >interferometer, a team of french astronomers led by Pierre > >> >Kervella from Paris Observatory, has measured directly the > >> >change of size of four Cepheids, during their pulsation cycle. > >> >http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/oct04/cep.en.shtml > >> > >> You are getting desperate > >> > >> Nothing here conflicts with the BaT > > > >Henri, the above reports on direct measurements of size changes > >on four Cepheids. Get it? The stars PULSATE. > > Yes Jerry, yes.... of course, Jerry. > Now be a good girl and eat up your cereal. Yes, that is your usual tactic. Since you don't like the data, you just ignore it. Instrumentation nowadays -is- a bit more advanced than a century ago, we -can- do direct measurements of stellar diameters, and we -do- see Cepheids pulsate. > >> > Polaris: Amplitude, Period Change, and Companions > >> > >> Polaris also has a rapidly changing period (3.2 s yr-1), > >> > >> You ARE getting desperate. > > > >Nope. > >3.2 seconds per year secular variation means the period > >changes by 32 seconds over ten years, or 5 minutes over > >a century. These are quite typical of Cepheids. > > and quite typical of a BaT prediction. > > >> > Study of period changes for 38 RR Lyrae variables in the > >> > globular cluster M15 > > > >> I will not comment of Lyrae stars because I don't yet have a > >> theory about them. Nor does anyone else, it seems. > > > >RR Lyrae stars form a continuous series with the Cepheids > >on the HR diagram. They are short period < 1 day, while > >Cepheids are > 1 day period. The same theories apply to > >RR Lyrae as to Cepheids. Period noise is extremely noticeable > >in these short period stars. It's also interesting to calculate > >what their orbital parameters need to be within the context > >of BaT. > > I said I wont comment...except to say that they are probably > smallish hot stars with a satellite neutron star or WCH. RR Lyrae star are giants, with periods as short as 8-9 hours. Try working out the orbital parameters implied by the data. (snigger) > I forecast that a new type of small bright star will be discovered soon. > > For instance, when a neutron star is forming, does it glow very > brightly before gravity eventually exceeds the escape velocity? You can't escape distance/magnitude/temperature constraints by handwaving. > >> > Period changes of Cepheid variables. I - Secular period changes > > > >> >Secular period changes of one hundred northern Cepheids are > >> >investigated with the help of O-C diagrams. With the classical > >> >Cepheids the rate of observed period changes is in good > >> >agreement with that determined from stellar evolution theory. > >> >The period noise cannot mask the evolutionary period changes > >> >especially in longer period Cepheids for which the occurrence > >> >of parabolic O-C graphs is unusually frequent. > >> > >> What makes you think that light speed remains constant from > >> star to Earth over even a five day period? > >> The part of space through which the light has to travel might > >> be quite different, eg, feature a gas cloud, or something > >> like that. That would be enough to explaoin the 'noise'. It > >> is a long distance analogy of the Earth's atmoshere causing > >> stars to 'twinkle'. > > > >At least you now acknowledge that period noise is real and > >needs to be explained. Just a few days ago, you were denying > >its very existence, and claimed that I was making it all up. > >That's an improvement. > > > >> I repeat, you are getting desperate. > >> > >> Everything you say gives me more ideas and strengthens the BaT. > >> > >> One day and with your continued 'assistance', I will be able > >> to write a formal paper. > > > >So long as you continue to deny the truth, it's all > >"in your dreams". > > ,,be a good girl now, the doctor will arrive soon.... Pig. Jerry
From: Henri Wilson on 6 Jul 2005 03:14
On 5 Jul 2005 15:25:40 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: >Henri Wilson wrote: >> On 5 Jul 2005 05:46:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >Henri Wilson wrote: >> >> On 4 Jul 2005 18:11:43 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> >> >Turner, JAAVSO Volume 26, 1998 101 >> >> >MONITORING THE EVOLUTION OF CEPHEID VARIABLES >> >> >http://www.aavso.org/publications/journal/v26n2/turner.pdf >> > >> > >> >> >VLTI watches the pulsation of four southern Cepheids >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >Thanks to the very high spatial resolution of the VLTI >> >> >interferometer, a team of french astronomers led by Pierre >> >> >Kervella from Paris Observatory, has measured directly the >> >> >change of size of four Cepheids, during their pulsation cycle. >> >> >http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/oct04/cep.en.shtml >> >> >> >> You are getting desperate >> >> >> >> Nothing here conflicts with the BaT >> > >> >Henri, the above reports on direct measurements of size changes >> >on four Cepheids. Get it? The stars PULSATE. >> >> Yes Jerry, yes.... of course, Jerry. >> Now be a good girl and eat up your cereal. > >Yes, that is your usual tactic. Since you don't like the data, >you just ignore it. > >Instrumentation nowadays -is- a bit more advanced than a >century ago, we -can- do direct measurements of stellar >diameters, and we -do- see Cepheids pulsate. You don't. You see something that exhibits the radial velocity characteristics of a star in elliptical orbit ecc ~0.25 >> >Nope. >> >3.2 seconds per year secular variation means the period >> >changes by 32 seconds over ten years, or 5 minutes over >> >a century. These are quite typical of Cepheids. >> >> and quite typical of a BaT prediction. >> >> >> > Study of period changes for 38 RR Lyrae variables in the >> >> > globular cluster M15 >> > >> >> I will not comment of Lyrae stars because I don't yet have a >> >> theory about them. Nor does anyone else, it seems. >> > >> >RR Lyrae stars form a continuous series with the Cepheids >> >on the HR diagram. They are short period < 1 day, while >> >Cepheids are > 1 day period. The same theories apply to >> >RR Lyrae as to Cepheids. Period noise is extremely noticeable >> >in these short period stars. It's also interesting to calculate >> >what their orbital parameters need to be within the context >> >of BaT. >> >> I said I wont comment...except to say that they are probably >> smallish hot stars with a satellite neutron star or WCH. > >RR Lyrae star are giants, with periods as short as 8-9 hours. >Try working out the orbital parameters implied by the data. >(snigger) I have my ideas about these but I am not going to state them now. You haven't any real idea what they are either. > >> I forecast that a new type of small bright star will be discovered soon. >> >> For instance, when a neutron star is forming, does it glow very >> brightly before gravity eventually exceeds the escape velocity? > >You can't escape distance/magnitude/temperature constraints >by handwaving. If they are known accurately, possibly not. But they aren't are they. Our estimates of their values are all interrelated. The BaT would expect emitted light from WCHs to be heavily redshifted...so they may be a lot hotter than they appear to be...and consequently much smaller. >> >> Everything you say gives me more ideas and strengthens the BaT. >> >> >> >> One day and with your continued 'assistance', I will be able >> >> to write a formal paper. >> > >> >So long as you continue to deny the truth, it's all >> >"in your dreams". >> >> ,,be a good girl now, the doctor will arrive soon.... > >Pig. > >Jerry HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong. |