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From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 2 May 2010 02:09 maybe 'assumption' rather than 'confusion' :-) I saw 'consolidating' and expected SBS to go into a VM also. In stage 1 I see a problem in that you are introducing a Server08 into an SBS03 AD. You mention CALs but we need to define stuff here, Windows CALs vs SQL CALs. ALSO NOTE that I spend most of my time in SBS and avoid most Windows CAL issues because all servers in the AD are at or below the SBS version. SBS CALs cover access to all Windows Servers in the AD, as long as they are not a later version of Windows than the SBS. SQL CALs work differently. You can have Windows Server03 running SQL08. Your access to the Windows Server is one type of CAL(Windows CAL), your access to SQL is another(SQL CAL or 'per processor'). However, that's enough about licensing. Further licensing questions should be directed to MS. If you are going to keep SBS on real metal than I _expect_ that the 2900 will be sufficient to virtualise the SQL+TS systems. <snip> - Show quoted text - I think I've confused you - not hard seeing as I am confused :) Not planning to VM existing SBS03.... it stays as and where is until _SWING_ to 08. Current set up with 35 clients Server1 SBS03 (2NIC ISA, Exchnage, Sql etc... all in good order) Server2 TS01 Server3 TS02 (on desktop old harware) Comany 1 has merged with Company 2 with go live date July 1 Company 2 has ERP that is very intense SQL use currrently 50+ clients (will end up with 25-30 after merger) Plan is to have one TS to handle ERP/SQL app. Stage 1 Add user accounts to SBS Trash Current Server 3 (it serves no pratical use other than it had full acrobat licence that they like to use) Set up W2K8 Server + SQL on VM to handle Company 2 SQL stuff Set up (move of Server3 to new hardware) W2K TS on VM with Company 2 ERP app Stage 2 Swing to SBS08, consider further VM/Consolidation of hardware for long term
From: MM on 2 May 2010 09:47
On May 2, 2:09 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > maybe 'assumption' rather than 'confusion' :-) I saw 'consolidating' and > expected SBS to go into a VM also. > > In stage 1 I see a problem in that you are introducing a Server08 into an > SBS03 AD. You mention CALs but we need to define stuff here, Windows CALs vs > SQL CALs. ALSO NOTE that I spend most of my time in SBS and avoid most > Windows CAL issues because all servers in the AD are at or below the SBS > version. SBS CALs cover access to all Windows Servers in the AD, as long as > they are not a later version of Windows than the SBS. > > SQL CALs work differently. You can have Windows Server03 running SQL08. Your > access to the Windows Server is one type of CAL(Windows CAL), your access to > SQL is another(SQL CAL or 'per processor'). > > However, that's enough about licensing. Further licensing questions should > be directed to MS. > > If you are going to keep SBS on real metal than I _expect_ that the 2900 > will be sufficient to virtualise the SQL+TS systems. > > <snip> - Show quoted text - > > I think I've confused you - not hard seeing as I am confused :) Not > planning to VM existing SBS03.... it stays as and where is until > _SWING_ to 08. > > Current set up with 35 clients > Server1 SBS03 (2NIC ISA, Exchnage, Sql etc... all in good order) > Server2 TS01 > Server3 TS02 (on desktop old harware) > > Comany 1 has merged with Company 2 with go live date July 1 Company 2 > has ERP that is very intense SQL use currrently 50+ clients (will end > up with 25-30 after merger) Plan is to have one TS to handle ERP/SQL > app. > > Stage 1 > Add user accounts to SBS > Trash Current Server 3 (it serves no pratical use other than it had > full acrobat licence that they like to use) > Set up W2K8 Server + SQL on VM to handle Company 2 SQL stuff > Set up (move of Server3 to new hardware) W2K TS on VM with Company 2 > ERP app > > Stage 2 > Swing to SBS08, consider further VM/Consolidation of hardware for long > term Thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated. I will get on with VM testing and may downgrade to W2K3 if required. |