From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on
maybe 'assumption' rather than 'confusion' :-) I saw 'consolidating' and
expected SBS to go into a VM also.

In stage 1 I see a problem in that you are introducing a Server08 into an
SBS03 AD. You mention CALs but we need to define stuff here, Windows CALs vs
SQL CALs. ALSO NOTE that I spend most of my time in SBS and avoid most
Windows CAL issues because all servers in the AD are at or below the SBS
version. SBS CALs cover access to all Windows Servers in the AD, as long as
they are not a later version of Windows than the SBS.

SQL CALs work differently. You can have Windows Server03 running SQL08. Your
access to the Windows Server is one type of CAL(Windows CAL), your access to
SQL is another(SQL CAL or 'per processor').

However, that's enough about licensing. Further licensing questions should
be directed to MS.

If you are going to keep SBS on real metal than I _expect_ that the 2900
will be sufficient to virtualise the SQL+TS systems.

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I think I've confused you - not hard seeing as I am confused :) Not
planning to VM existing SBS03.... it stays as and where is until
_SWING_ to 08.

Current set up with 35 clients
Server1 SBS03 (2NIC ISA, Exchnage, Sql etc... all in good order)
Server2 TS01
Server3 TS02 (on desktop old harware)

Comany 1 has merged with Company 2 with go live date July 1 Company 2
has ERP that is very intense SQL use currrently 50+ clients (will end
up with 25-30 after merger) Plan is to have one TS to handle ERP/SQL
app.

Stage 1
Add user accounts to SBS
Trash Current Server 3 (it serves no pratical use other than it had
full acrobat licence that they like to use)
Set up W2K8 Server + SQL on VM to handle Company 2 SQL stuff
Set up (move of Server3 to new hardware) W2K TS on VM with Company 2
ERP app

Stage 2
Swing to SBS08, consider further VM/Consolidation of hardware for long
term




From: MM on
On May 2, 2:09 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote:
> maybe 'assumption' rather than 'confusion' :-) I saw 'consolidating' and
> expected SBS to go into a VM also.
>
> In stage 1 I see a problem in that you are introducing a Server08 into an
> SBS03 AD. You mention CALs but we need to define stuff here, Windows CALs vs
> SQL CALs. ALSO NOTE that I spend most of my time in SBS and avoid most
> Windows CAL issues because all servers in the AD are at or below the SBS
> version. SBS CALs cover access to all Windows Servers in the AD, as long as
> they are not a later version of Windows than the SBS.
>
> SQL CALs work differently. You can have Windows Server03 running SQL08. Your
> access to the Windows Server is one type of CAL(Windows CAL), your access to
> SQL is another(SQL CAL or 'per processor').
>
> However, that's enough about licensing. Further licensing questions should
> be directed to MS.
>
> If you are going to keep SBS on real metal than I _expect_ that the 2900
> will be sufficient to virtualise the SQL+TS systems.
>
> <snip> - Show quoted text -
>
> I think I've confused you - not hard seeing as I am confused :) Not
> planning to VM existing SBS03.... it stays as and where is until
> _SWING_ to 08.
>
> Current set up with 35 clients
> Server1 SBS03 (2NIC ISA, Exchnage, Sql etc... all in good order)
> Server2 TS01
> Server3 TS02 (on desktop old harware)
>
> Comany 1 has merged with Company 2 with go live date July 1 Company 2
> has ERP that is very intense SQL use currrently 50+ clients (will end
> up with 25-30 after merger) Plan is to have one TS to handle ERP/SQL
> app.
>
> Stage 1
> Add user accounts to SBS
> Trash Current Server 3 (it serves no pratical use other than it had
> full acrobat licence that they like to use)
> Set up W2K8 Server + SQL on VM to handle Company 2 SQL stuff
> Set up (move of Server3 to new hardware) W2K TS on VM with Company 2
> ERP app
>
> Stage 2
> Swing to SBS08, consider further VM/Consolidation of hardware for long
> term

Thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated. I will get on with VM
testing and may downgrade to W2K3 if required.