Standalone Skype
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From: CJB on 25 Jan 2010 00:51 On Jan 25, 4:57 am, Dennis Ferguson <dcfergu...(a)pacbell.net> wrote: > On 2010-01-24, Steve Terry <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Alasdair" <m...(a)bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in message > >news:l45nl599qfv083j5eded656jsqhtdgul1p(a)4ax.com... > >> Is it possible to buy a good quality standalone Skype handset which > >> will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The > >> problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out. > >> Alasdair. > > > Skype compatible phones are listed at: > >http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/ > > > Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone > > which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls > > > check out Graham's site > >http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/ > > Rebtel, here > > http://www.rebtel.com > > is also a possibility. They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway > for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone. > You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start > up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call, > so it may depend on the browser->Skype app interaction working. > Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out. > > On the topic of Skype being a "proprietary" protocol, I think > that is actually its best feature for travel. I've stayed in > lots of hotels (not to mention whole countries, e.g. Myanmar, > and Costa Rica at one point) which block SIP but which seem to > be unable to do the same for Skype. If you can avoid the gotcha > rates on the Skype Out price list it is otherwise pretty good. > > Dennis Ferguson- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Rebtel is expensive when you have a S2 and a PAYG Three account. With Three (and an S2 etc.) you can make Skype Out calls for 'free' to international nos. - landlines and mobiles. Well the Three connection to Skype is free. Then with Skype credit the Skype Out charge is about 2p a min. for a landline no., and about 14p a min. for a mobile (and the quality varies). But to use Rebtel you have to set up a local no. which on Three's tariff (with an S2 etc.) is 20p a minute for the connection to start off with. Then you are charged for whatever Rebtel charges for a landline or mobile connection. For a local call you can't use Skype on the S2. Three charges 20p a min. flat rate to a local call. So why use Rebtel when you have to pay 20p a min. to call the Rebtel local no., and then pay for whatever Rebtel charges to connect to the required local no. It is Three's 20p a minute which is the kiler in all of this. And other mobile telco. charges are higher. CJB.
From: CJB on 25 Jan 2010 00:53 On Jan 24, 7:57 pm, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > "CJB" <chrisjbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:96b230a8-19e3-428b-8db7-ff0a617fae96(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 24, 12:52 am, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > > > > > "Alasdair" <m...(a)bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in message > > >news:l45nl599qfv083j5eded656jsqhtdgul1p(a)4ax.com...> Is it possible to buy > > a good quality standalone Skype handset which > >> > will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The > >> > problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out. > >> > Alasdair. > > >> Skype compatible phones are listed > >> at:http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/ > > >> Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone > >> which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls > > >> check out Graham's site > >>http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/ > > >> list of sips and call costs > >>http://backsla.sh/betamax > > >> Steve Terry > > >On the S2 Skype Out works for international calls - but you need Skype > >credit. Skype Out calls to landlines are next to nothing. Calls to > >mobiles are expensive and the quality not worth paying for. > >CJB > > Did you actually readhttp://www.skypegateway.webs.com/ > > Steve Terry > -- > Get a free Three 3pay Sim with £2 bonus after £10 top uphttp://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Reading the details is easy. Understanding what to do to set it all up is not. Also you need a 24/7 broadband connection on a static PC to act as a server. No good for those with a dongle or S2 mobile modem as his/her only broadband link. CJB.
From: Dennis Ferguson on 25 Jan 2010 03:45 On 2010-01-25, CJB <chrisjbrady(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 25, 4:57 am, Dennis Ferguson <dcfergu...(a)pacbell.net> wrote: >> Rebtel, here >> >> http://www.rebtel.com >> >> is also a possibility. They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway >> for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone. >> You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start >> up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call, >> so it may depend on the browser->Skype app interaction working. >> Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out. [...] > But to use Rebtel you have to set up a local no. which on Three's > tariff (with an S2 etc.) is 20p a minute for the connection to start > off with. Then you are charged for whatever Rebtel charges for a > landline or mobile connection. It would be easier if you'd taken note of what I wrote, though maybe you can look here: http://blog.rebtel.com/2009/12/03/rebtel-introduces-computer-calls/ You don't have to call through a local number to use Rebtel, you can also call from your Skype client with Rebtel doing the gatewaying to their service. As the Skype client in the latter case thinks it is doing a Skype-to-Skype call the call doesn't cost anything and should connect you no matter where you are ultimately trying to call. Rebtel's rates are also somewhat more reasonable than Skype Out. > For a local call you can't use Skype on the S2. Three charges 20p a > min. flat rate to a local call. So why use Rebtel when you have to pay > 20p a min. to call the Rebtel local no., and then pay for whatever > Rebtel charges to connect to the required local no. You don't have to call a Rebtel dial-through number. The way it works, however, you do need to initiate the call from a browser logged into Rebtel's web site so you'll need to be paying for data service for the S2. Dennis Ferguson
From: Graham. on 25 Jan 2010 09:47 "CJB" <chrisjbrady(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cecf407d-f4b4-43fe-81c8-26a36ebb4785(a)u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... On Jan 24, 7:57 pm, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > "CJB" <chrisjbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:96b230a8-19e3-428b-8db7-ff0a617fae96(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 24, 12:52 am, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > > > > > "Alasdair" <m...(a)bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in message > > >news:l45nl599qfv083j5eded656jsqhtdgul1p(a)4ax.com...> Is it possible to buy > > a good quality standalone Skype handset which > >> > will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The > >> > problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out. > >> > Alasdair. > > >> Skype compatible phones are listed > >> at:http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/ > > >> Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone > >> which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls > > >> check out Graham's site > >>http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/ > > >> list of sips and call costs > >>http://backsla.sh/betamax > > >> Steve Terry > > >On the S2 Skype Out works for international calls - but you need Skype > >credit. Skype Out calls to landlines are next to nothing. Calls to > >mobiles are expensive and the quality not worth paying for. > >CJB > > Did you actually readhttp://www.skypegateway.webs.com/ > > Steve Terry > -- > Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top uphttp://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Reading the details is easy. Understanding what to do to set it all up is not. Also you need a 24/7 broadband connection on a static PC to act as a server. No good for those with a dongle or S2 mobile modem as his/her only broadband link. CJB. > > It's not difficult if you take it step by step. Last night I made a few minor changes to the wording that might have caused confusion at a cursory glance. It is true that you need to run a PC 24/7 and you would have to factor the electricity costs into the TCO. Ideally, run it on a PC that needs to be on anyway. It would be nice to have a free hosting somewhere for the gateway, it may never happen because of the bandwith involved. The audio streams themselves must go via the gateway because of the trans-protocol conversion. You are totally wrong about the need for a static IP address in this project. and even if it did, we could use dyndns. -- Graham. %Profound_observation%
From: Steve Terry on 25 Jan 2010 10:57 "Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:slrnhlqmi2.r4.dcferguson(a)akit-ferguson.com... > On 2010-01-25, CJB <chrisjbrady(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jan 25, 4:57 am, Dennis Ferguson <dcfergu...(a)pacbell.net> wrote: >>> Rebtel, here >>> >>> http://www.rebtel.com >>> >>> is also a possibility. They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway >>> for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone. >>> You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start >>> up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call, >>> so it may depend on the browser->Skype app interaction working. >>> Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out. > [...] >> But to use Rebtel you have to set up a local no. which on Three's >> tariff (with an S2 etc.) is 20p a minute for the connection to start >> off with. Then you are charged for whatever Rebtel charges for a >> landline or mobile connection. > > It would be easier if you'd taken note of what I wrote, though > maybe you can look here: > > http://blog.rebtel.com/2009/12/03/rebtel-introduces-computer-calls/ > > You don't have to call through a local number to use Rebtel, > you can also call from your Skype client with Rebtel doing > the gatewaying to their service. As the Skype client in > the latter case thinks it is doing a Skype-to-Skype call the > call doesn't cost anything and should connect you no matter > where you are ultimately trying to call. Rebtel's rates are > also somewhat more reasonable than Skype Out. > > But rebtel is still 11p per min to call UK mobiles, you'd be better off with an ASDA or giffgaff sim for other than 3 to 3 calls Steve Terry -- Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top up http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276
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