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From: Dorian Gray on 29 Jan 2010 14:57 In article <290120101940005337%nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>, Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote: > In article <D.Gray-77E931.19293029012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, Dorian > Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > > > In article <1jd38gw.1ctomd61c2m2t0N%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, > > peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > > > > > Come now, shouldn't that be 'Yp?' > > > > > > Or is it only Aussies who do that? > > > > That upward inflection at the end of statements is a Sydney-sider thing > > - it's not countrywide. > > Jokin? > > Aussie English is remarkably homogenous. Not at all. Ma Staters have the upward inflection. Melburnians (yes that's the correct spelling) have a nasal Greek/Italian tone or have a soft accent reminiscent of a cross between a New Zealander and a South African. Banana Benders have a friendly broad accent. The Perthite accent is soft and neutral enough to be very confusing for anyone trying to figure out an ex-pat Sandgroper is from. And Crow Eaters, well that's by elimination. :)
From: Dorian Gray on 29 Jan 2010 15:00 In article <D.Gray-AB1FD5.19573229012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > to figure out where > an ex-pat Sandgroper is from.
From: Elliott Roper on 29 Jan 2010 15:20 In article <D.Gray-AB1FD5.19573229012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > In article <290120101940005337%nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>, > Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote: > > > In article <D.Gray-77E931.19293029012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, Dorian > > Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > > > > > In article <1jd38gw.1ctomd61c2m2t0N%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, > > > peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > > > > > > > Come now, shouldn't that be 'Yp?' > > > > > > > > Or is it only Aussies who do that? > > > > > > That upward inflection at the end of statements is a Sydney-sider thing > > > - it's not countrywide. > > > > Jokin? > > > > Aussie English is remarkably homogenous. > > Not at all. Ma Staters have the upward inflection. Melburnians (yes > that's the correct spelling) have a nasal Greek/Italian tone or have a > soft accent reminiscent of a cross between a New Zealander and a South > African. Banana Benders have a friendly broad accent. The Perthite > accent is soft and neutral enough to be very confusing for anyone trying > to figure out an ex-pat Sandgroper is from. And Crow Eaters, well > that's by elimination. :) I beg to differ, although my experience is getting a bit out of date. I grew up in Melbourne, and nobody except the Greeks and Italians had Greek or Italian accents, and even then their dads were far worse. My schoolmates Vince Vozzo and Peter Zigouras had proper Aussie accents from the age of 12. You could hear their voices in Sydney as well as Melbourne. OK, if you spend your life in Lygon Street, you might be tempted to think there is a bit of Italian in the language, but that's a small price to pay for some of the best food on the planet. By contrast, here in Hayfield, the locals almost speak a different language to those in Stockport, about 12 miles thataway. And if you are from Ashton, you better have subtitles. On the rare occasions I get as far as Manchester, I have to undertake a week's Corrie indoctrination beforehand. And there is no decent restaurant closer than Fischers in Bakewell. Whatever. My missus is a great cook, and the locals are ace fun, even if I can't always understand what they are saying. -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248
From: Bruce Horrocks on 29 Jan 2010 17:58 On 28/01/2010 15:29, Sara wrote: > In article<D.Gray-DB627A.14564628012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, > Dorian Gray<D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > >> In article<1jd19la.nao7t61cm97zoN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>, >> peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) wrote: >> >> Pd, as usual your post is restrained and well-put. It must be time >> consuming to write such posts, which try to educate without being >> patronizing. > > I see them as the epitome of the well-crafted put down complete with > carefully crafted patronisation. I wish I had such a skill. But but but... he replies to loads of my posts?!!? -- Bruce Horrocks Surrey England (bruce at scorecrow dot com)
From: Dorian Gray on 29 Jan 2010 18:14
In article <7sh7glFmkhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > On 28/01/2010 15:29, Sara wrote: > > In article<D.Gray-DB627A.14564628012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, > > Dorian Gray<D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > > > >> In article<1jd19la.nao7t61cm97zoN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>, > >> peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) wrote: > >> > >> Pd, as usual your post is restrained and well-put. It must be time > >> consuming to write such posts, which try to educate without being > >> patronizing. > > > > I see them as the epitome of the well-crafted put down complete with > > carefully crafted patronisation. I wish I had such a skill. > > But but but... he replies to loads of my posts?!!? No, no, don't worry - not all of his posts are like the one(s) referred to above. |