Steve Jobs, the iPad, and cultural sugar water
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From: Jochem Huhmann on 5 Jul 2010 14:26 Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> writes: > Everything depends on the file path, and if one aspect of what you're > trying to do steals that, then the rest just have to fit in. > > Or it might be the compiler, or make. Each of these insists you have > paths to your files written into the data it's using. Yes, you can > restructure your 500 .c or .h files, but it won't be easy. Hey, we're talking about appliances here, not about servers or development machines. The average person would not even know what you're talking about here. Which proves a point or two, I think. Jochem -- "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Tom Stiller on 5 Jul 2010 14:55 In article <siegman-1FA42F.08441205072010(a)sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>, AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > They _could_ have built their iGadgets starting with the classic file > system, Finder, and apps model that is the foundation of their own > computers and essentially all other computers; and then built their > novice-user-friendly entertainment-oriented interface as a primary > option on top of that. That would have made the iGadgets equally (and > very) useful both for "real computer users" and for entertainment > consumers -- but it would have reduced the protection for many aspects > of DRM Sure, they _could_ have but why bother when the target demographic doesn't need and, for the most part, doesn't want the added complexity. It's clear that the iOS devices aren't for you. Good luck with whatever you choose to replace them. -- Tom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: AES on 5 Jul 2010 15:23 In article <m2y6dp28o5.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Come on, you don't want to have to dig around in the file system with a > Finder like app on such an appliance. Yes, that's absolutely what I want to do -- and what I think a lot of other people would also want to do. Suppose I'm heading out the door on a short (or long) excursion, during which I'll only need some of my files and some of iPad's capabilities, whatever they are. I want to be able to: --Transfer any one of the many "topic" folders that are on my desktop (and that may contain a bewildering variety of file types and formats) straight over to the USB-connected iPad's icon on the same desktop (or maybe do this via WiFi) with _one_ single familiar drag and drop operation; --Access a few of those files on the iPad during the excursion, for reading or viewing or listening, maybe for some light editing, to whatever extent the iPad can do this; --Maybe transfer some of those files (or the whole folder) over to a colleague, or to a temporarily available computer, during the excursion, again with nothing more than a USB (or maybe WiFi) connection and a single drag and drop action; --and when I get back home, transfer the whole folder, in one swoop, back to my home computer in the same single drag-and-drop manner. I don't want to even think about having to do any of those transfers using iTunes, or Dropbox, or whatever, because: --It's stupidly unnecessary to have to maintain, fire up, learn to use, and carry out these transfers via a complex and totally unrelated 200 MB app like iTunes, when this is exactly what the Finder is for!; --And I don't (and can't, ever) trust some that some app like that will be able to handle every single one of all the files and file types that may be in my topic folder I'm copying over, and not screw up or bypass some of those files -- whereas I am willing to trust the Finder; --And I don't want to worry about what unknown synching, or copying to obscure places, or just plain trashing of my files may be done by iTunes or other apps, based on DRM or whatever, without alerting me or before I can stop it (happens all the time with iTunes, right?); and mostly, because it's just really stupidly unnecessary to have to do such transfers this way.
From: Wes Groleau on 5 Jul 2010 15:26 On 07-05-2010 14:17, Tim Streater wrote: > Everything depends on the file path, and if one aspect of what you're > trying to do steals that, then the rest just have to fit in. To put it another way, if families live in households, and households are described on census pages, and census pages are in enumeration districts, which are within townships, counties, states, with a different organization each decade, what do you do with ..../1960/OK/Tulsa/Tulsa/ED231/P102A/H104/Groleau and ..../1970/OR/Lane/T23E-R15N/ED101/P12B/H87/Groleau when you want to follow the growth of this family? What if (probably the case, but I don't know) since townships are much smaller in western states, either that level or the E.D. level is not used in Oregon? -- Wes Groleau Hillary Insults Virgen de Guadalupe? http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1531
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Jul 2010 15:27
In article <siegman-D4C4E0.12233805072010(a)sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>, AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > In article <m2y6dp28o5.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> > wrote: > > > Come on, you don't want to have to dig around in the file system with a > > Finder like app on such an appliance. > > Yes, that's absolutely what I want to do -- and what I think a lot of > other people would also want to do. > > Suppose I'm heading out the door on a short (or long) excursion, during > which I'll only need some of my files and some of iPad's capabilities, > whatever they are. I want to be able to: > > --Transfer any one of the many "topic" folders that are on my desktop > (and that may contain a bewildering variety of file types and formats) > straight over to the USB-connected iPad's icon on the same desktop (or > maybe do this via WiFi) with _one_ single familiar drag and drop > operation; > > --Access a few of those files on the iPad during the excursion, for > reading or viewing or listening, maybe for some light editing, to > whatever extent the iPad can do this; > > --Maybe transfer some of those files (or the whole folder) over to a > colleague, or to a temporarily available computer, during the excursion, > again with nothing more than a USB (or maybe WiFi) connection and a > single drag and drop action; > > --and when I get back home, transfer the whole folder, in one swoop, > back to my home computer in the same single drag-and-drop manner. > > I don't want to even think about having to do any of those transfers > using iTunes, or Dropbox, or whatever, because: > > --It's stupidly unnecessary to have to maintain, fire up, learn to use, > and carry out these transfers via a complex and totally unrelated 200 MB > app like iTunes, when this is exactly what the Finder is for!; > > --And I don't (and can't, ever) trust some that some app like that will > be able to handle every single one of all the files and file types that > may be in my topic folder I'm copying over, and not screw up or bypass > some of those files -- whereas I am willing to trust the Finder; > > --And I don't want to worry about what unknown synching, or copying to > obscure places, or just plain trashing of my files may be done by iTunes > or other apps, based on DRM or whatever, without alerting me or before I > can stop it (happens all the time with iTunes, right?); > > and mostly, because it's just really stupidly unnecessary to have to do > such transfers this way. Then it is very obvious that the iPad wasn't meant for you at all. No problem, don't buy and iPad, get a laptop. -- Lloyd |