Steve Jobs, the iPad, and cultural sugar water
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From: Todd Allcock on 6 Jul 2010 13:58 "Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in message news:michelle-AF1E2C.08441406072010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... > In article <GFGYn.3560$Zp1.1586(a)newsfe15.iad>, > Todd Allcock <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > >> *Sigh" It's not the "iTunes" that's important- it's the computer. iP* >> devices need a computer for normal, intended, operation, and your >> continued denial of that is disingenous at best. > > As I said, my hair stylist has an iPhone 3GS, and doesn't own a computer. > Once her iPhone was set up at the Apple Store where she bought it a year > ago, it has never been connected to a computer. I suppose, were I "nospam," I'd shrug off your reply with a cry of "edge case!" I suspect, however, your stylist is long time "dumbphone" user, and hasn't changed her habits. Presumably, while she probably enjoys her iPhone greatly, I'm guessing she doesn't really use the iPod functionality at all.
From: nospam on 6 Jul 2010 14:11 In article <Z9KYn.3576$Zp1.870(a)newsfe15.iad>, Todd Allcock <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > > As I said, my hair stylist has an iPhone 3GS, and doesn't own a computer. > > Once her iPhone was set up at the Apple Store where she bought it a year > > ago, it has never been connected to a computer. > > I suppose, were I "nospam," I'd shrug off your reply with a cry of "edge > case!" i don't need to suppose :) it's not as edge as you may think. > I suspect, however, your stylist is long time "dumbphone" user, and hasn't > changed her habits. Presumably, while she probably enjoys her iPhone > greatly, I'm guessing she doesn't really use the iPod functionality at all. i was in an apple store once and someone brought in an ipod to be repaired. they gave him a new one and he said he was going to go home, fill it with music and *mail* it to his father who couldn't be bothered to connect it to a computer. he may not have even had a computer (i don't remember). the music on it never changed. i consider myself a power user and i rarely change the music content on my devices. i have my favourite stuff on it (that's why ratings are useful :)), and every once in a while i might make a change. i have an older ipod where the content hasn't changed in years.
From: Todd Allcock on 6 Jul 2010 14:34 "Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in message news:michelle-0BDD03.11085506072010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... > In article <Z9KYn.3576$Zp1.870(a)newsfe15.iad>, > "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > >> > As I said, my hair stylist has an iPhone 3GS, and doesn't own a >> > computer. Once her iPhone was set up at the Apple Store where she >> > bought it a year ago, it has never been connected to a computer. >> >> I suppose, were I "nospam," I'd shrug off your reply with a cry of "edge >> case!" >> >> I suspect, however, your stylist is long time "dumbphone" user, and >> hasn't changed her habits. Presumably, while she probably enjoys her >> iPhone greatly, I'm guessing she doesn't really use the iPod >> functionality at all. > > Actually, she uses the iPod function, email, and apps a lot. I don't know > how much web browsing she does, though. How does she get music on it? Buy it all through iTunes? Or does she have a friend rip her CDs and load them? As friendly as the folks at the Apple store are, would they let you bring in a shoebox full of CDs and rip them to your new iPhone for you at time of activation?
From: Paul Murray on 6 Jul 2010 14:49 On 2010-07-06, Todd Allcock <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > "Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in message > news:michelle-0BDD03.11085506072010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... >> In article <Z9KYn.3576$Zp1.870(a)newsfe15.iad>, >> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: >>> > As I said, my hair stylist has an iPhone 3GS, and doesn't own a >>> > computer. Once her iPhone was set up at the Apple Store where she >>> > bought it a year ago, it has never been connected to a computer. >>> I suppose, were I "nospam," I'd shrug off your reply with a cry of "edge >>> case!" >>> I suspect, however, your stylist is long time "dumbphone" user, and >>> hasn't changed her habits. Presumably, while she probably enjoys her >>> iPhone greatly, I'm guessing she doesn't really use the iPod >>> functionality at all. >> Actually, she uses the iPod function, email, and apps a lot. I don't know >> how much web browsing she does, though. > How does she get music on it? Buy it all through iTunes? Or does she have > a friend rip her CDs and load them? Downloaded podcasts (you can download them straight to the iThing)? Pandora/last.fm/etc...?
From: AES on 6 Jul 2010 15:55
In article <i0viem$7o7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > Sure, one can tediously modify the names, labels, categories, etc in > > iTunes to fit other situations -- but no one who's had experience with > > any really good media management and cataloging software (and there are > > several examples of such for the Mac) would ever go near iTunes for this > > function. > > I don't doubt that. Curiously, what are the top examples for the Mac? Can't necessarily name the _top_ examples -- but can name three examples I think are very good to excellent, for their tasks and as models for interfaces. Leading the list by far is iView MediaPro, which originally came from an independent firm in the UK for 10 or 15 years; I used it from day one; cost about $100 to $150 or so. (It was sold to MS and renamed Expressionist Media a few years ago; and has very recently been re-sold to a UK specialist digital camera vendor, who has still to decide what they'll do with it.) It's an absolute model -- at least for me -- of what a general purpose media cataloging and management app ought to be. (There are of course many other graphics or media cataloging apps, from Apple, Adobe, and other vendors, including large camera vendors. I tried out several of them several decades ago; discovered IVMP; and never had any reason to look further.) EndNote is a bibliographic database/reference management app; I've used it in emerging versions for at least 10, maybe 15 years. Has a few minor things I'd like to see changed, but is generally very good. Now Contact is an excellent address book app -- maybe not greatly superior to Apple's Address Book, but good enough that after 10+ years' experience with it I see no reason to convert. It has an especially lovely feature in the form of a "QuickContact" menulet/applet/whatever the hell it is Finder menu icon that lets you search for and pull data out of its database without actually opening the primary Now Contact app. Can't understand why no other database app that I know of has such a feature . |