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From: Arno Wagner on 17 Jan 2006 13:48 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage mc <look(a)www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote: > "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:43266tF1kt0oeU1(a)individual.net... >> Torx is optimised for maximum torque without damaging the >> tool or screw and easier insertion than the standard 6-way >> symmetric format. IMO ist qualifies as possibly the best >> all around screw head format. > Yes... you can actually hold the screw with the screwdriver... that is, put > the screw on the end of the screwdriver, then move it into position. Exactly. Arno
From: Arno Wagner on 17 Jan 2006 13:52 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Chris Lewis <clewis(a)nortelnetworks.com> wrote: > According to mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com>: >> On 16 Jan 2006 18:15:57 GMT, Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >Definitely correct. For anti-tamper there is Torx with a pin >> >in the middle that needs a Torx driver with a hole. Standard >> >Torx is just very well suited for automated mounting and also > >> I hadn't thought about that, but I had noticed that it stays on the >> tip without magnetism, even when the tip is horizontal. > Square drive (eg: Canadian "Robertson") are almost as good. I drove several > hundred 3" deck screws through flooring yesterday - once put on the driver, > they stayed put on the driver and could be started and driven without touching > the screw. > No cam-out either. > I still think they should make the manufacture and sale of slotted and > phillips screws a capital offence. Careful! Outlawing stupidity, while highly desirable, would lead to chaos. Arno
From: Arno Wagner on 17 Jan 2006 13:52 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Isaac Wingfield <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote: > In article <43266tF1kt0oeU1(a)individual.net>, > Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage wrench <wrench(a)409.com> wrote: >> >> Torx screws are seldom used for no other purpose then to keep the >> >> prying eyes of consumers from sensitive stuff. Thats why they're >> >> used in elevators. >> >> > Not an accurate statement. Torx drive screws have been used on >> > vehicles for ten years plus. They are not (in their standard form) >> > an anti tamper fastener. >> >> Definitely correct. For anti-tamper there is Torx with a pin >> in the middle that needs a Torx driver with a hole. > Or a little work with a strong, small flat blade, to bend it back and > forth until it breaks off. Should work as well, agreed. Unless you want to make warranty claims afterwasrds ;-) Arno
From: Dan Lanciani on 17 Jan 2006 15:49 In article <MPG.1e36d0143c1b9f659896fd(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>, josh(a)phred.org (Joshua Putnam) writes: | In article <L44zf.13116$Zo.11468(a)trnddc07>, | drhardcrab(a)hotmail.SPAMcom says... | > | > "John McGaw" <nobody(a)nowh.ere> wrote | > | > | > > If you want to buy Torx Plus tools you must, in theory anyway, be a | > > legitimate user as defined by Textron although if you know anyone who | > > works with them they should be pretty easily obtained at the cost of a | > > case of beer. ;-) | > | > | > http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com/product-group.aspx?id=7957 | | Doesn't appear to include 5-pointed Torx, only 6-pointed. How about this: http://sjdiscounttools.com/sk84231.html (The SK84231 set is available from many sites, but this one had a short URL.) Dan Lanciani ddl(a)danlan.*com
From: Folkert Rienstra on 17 Jan 2006 15:17
"Chris Lewis" <clewis(a)nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message news:11sqeh2gu9db68(a)corp.supernews.com > According to Folkert Rienstra <folkertdsahrienstra(a)wanadoo.nl>: > > "Chris Lewis" <clewis(a)nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message news:11sotrss7pvgrd9(a)corp.supernews.com > > > According to Folkert Rienstra folkertxxxxrienstra(a)wanadoo.nl: > > > Please, do not use Reply-To addresses in attribution lines. > > Get a decent newsclient, or change your attribution line, like everyone else does. > > I assure you, trn 4 is a decent news reader, Obviously not if it is straying from standard practice. > and substituting in the Reply-To for From: is actually the right thing to do No, it is not. > if the attribution line is to have anything in it resembling the to user's address. Nonsense. Obviously Reply-To is for replying-to/following-up. Contributor attribution has nothing got to do with follow-up. Any decent news/email client automatically uses the Reply-To from the header if you choose email reply (reply to sender) and reverts to From: if it is empty. No point whatsoever to use it in attribution lines. Any news/email client that relies on attribution lines for replies is obviously broken. > > Spammers aren't stupid enough to ignore Reply-To headers - in fact, smart > ones would be scraping them in _preference_ to From: headers. Practice says different. > > And those that scrape the whole message (which is why you're worried about > my attribution, > right?) Wrong. I don't want my Reply address used in bodies. > will scrape the reply-to _too_. > So, you're shooting yourself in the foot Nope, it is you who is shooting me in the foot. > far more than the occasional followup from someone > using reasonable newsreader attribution defaults like me. If it was reasonable every other newsreader would use it. Guess what. > > If you want to avoid Usenet scrapers, you need to not mention your real > email address AT ALL, or munge it. Or use that what was intended to use and isn't normally used in usenet bodies (not the header). > > Eg: "xxxxxxxx (at) yyyyyyy.zz", or xxxxxspamxxxxxx(a)yyyyyyy.zz. I told you not to use my Reply addres in usenet messages and here you go again. It's bloody obvious how to undo the spamtraps from that. > > Reply-To is not a useful approach for evading Usenet email address scrapers. > If you don't want to get it scraped, _don't_ imagine that Reply-To will hide it. I don't imagine, you are. I just see what happens in practice. |