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From: mm on 16 Jan 2006 17:57 On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:12:48 -0000, clewis(a)nortelnetworks.com (Chris Lewis) wrote: >According to mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com>: >> On 16 Jan 2006 18:15:57 GMT, Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> >Definitely correct. For anti-tamper there is Torx with a pin >> >in the middle that needs a Torx driver with a hole. Standard >> >Torx is just very well suited for automated mounting and also > >> I hadn't thought about that, but I had noticed that it stays on the >> tip without magnetism, even when the tip is horizontal. > >Square drive (eg: Canadian "Robertson") are almost as good. I drove several >hundred 3" deck screws through flooring yesterday - once put on the driver, >they stayed put on the driver and could be started and driven without touching >the screw. > >No cam-out either. > >I still think they should make the manufacture and sale of slotted and >phillips screws a capital offence. That would be like making digitial tv the standard, and non-digital tv's dificult to use. Think of all the screwdrivers that would have to go on welfare. Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let me know if you have posted also.
From: J. Clarke on 16 Jan 2006 17:36 mm wrote: > On 16 Jan 2006 08:17:07 -0800, "stickyfox(a)gmail.com" > <stickyfox(a)gmail.com> wrote: > .... >>I've opened hard drives again and again in very filthy rooms and >>they've never shown any ill effects over the days, or in some cases >>weeks, that I operated them. I do this all the time with old drives >>because I can see what's happening inside the drive while I test my >>control circuitry. >> >>If I was manufacturing hundreds of thousands of drives and had to worry >>about warranties and customer satisfaction, I'd be doing it in a clean >>room. And I would buy a new drive before attempting to repair a damaged >>one. But you definitely can operate a hard drive without the cover for >>a while; probably long enough to do whatever you want if you don't >>dawdle. > > My drive is clicking, and one important partition has a very bad > directory structure. I'm not sure I can copy over even the good > partitions before it "fails". If I open it, what would I want to do > to stop the clicking, or to keep the clicking syndrome from preventing > me from copying the data to a good drive. > > (The bad partition is FAT16 (because I was still running win3.1 and > win98 and wanted both OSes to access the parttiion.) Unless you have the tools and skills to identify and repair a surface defect there's nothing much you can do by opening the drive that will "stop the clicking". Either copy as much as you can before it fails or send it to a data recovery company that has the necessary tools. > Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let > me know if you have posted also. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
From: George E. Cawthon on 16 Jan 2006 18:27 buffalobill wrote: > "TORX PLUS" [NOT TORX] > > http://www.wihatools.com/716_IPR_serie.htm > Thanks for the URL, new that screw didn't look like regular torx but have seen that type of screw and certainly didn't know there were 3 different torx screws. Something new every day.
From: Joshua Putnam on 16 Jan 2006 19:14 In article <cn1os156m6lldm26e6dqhpn43t2me470vl(a)4ax.com>, NOPSAMmm2005 @bigfoot.com says... > I wonder how long until there are chrome torx screws for > decorative places. I know they're already available special order, but I like the looks of stainless better anyway, and they're readily available. -- josh(a)phred.org is Joshua Putnam <http://www.phred.org/~josh/> Updated Bicycle Touring Books List: <http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/tourbooks.html>
From: Folkert Rienstra on 16 Jan 2006 19:21
"Chris Lewis" <clewis(a)nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message news:11so3btnaaadg1b(a)corp.supernews.com > According to mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com>: > > My drive is clicking, and one important partition has a very bad > > directory structure. I'm not sure I can copy over even the good > > partitions before it "fails". If I open it, what would I want to do > > to stop the clicking, or to keep the clicking syndrome from preventing > > me from copying the data to a good drive. > > The best way to ensure that you can copy over the good partitions > is to _not_ open the drive first. > > The safest way is to image copy the whole drive to a new drive. Put > the old drive in a safe place, and try to repair the new drive's > directory structure. Preferably doing a backup of the image you copied > to the new drive before you diddle it, so you can start over _without_ > touching the old drive. > > The clicking is most likely retries > (ie: gouged media, weak magnetics). Just any unrecoverable read error (which isn't necessarily a physical one, it can just be a bad write, ie a logical error). > You _can't_ fix that. Yes you _can_, for the logical bad blocks. > You're unlikely to be able to repair even obvious mechanical faults either. |