From: Ron Peterson on
On May 19, 10:57 am, alexy <nos...(a)asbry.net> wrote:

> >Is there a non-Cartesian grid pattern for a flat community that does
> >better for the worst case than the Cartesian grid pattern?

> With streets laid out in equilateral triangles, the worst case is a
> 75% longer (actually sqrt(3)-1) trip, but unlike the square blocks,
> the potential inefficiency doesn't decrease with distance. So the
> triangles are better for short trips, but worse for long ones.

I found http://www.automatedtransport.com/htmlv04.html which shows a
triangular diamond grid pattern in illustration 10.

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Ron
From: alexy on
Les Cargill <lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:

>Mike Terry wrote:
>> "Les Cargill"<lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4bf449c8$0$15824$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>> alexy wrote:
>>>> Les Cargill<lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is this because the worst-case is SQRT(2) for running the sides
>>>>> of an equilateral right triangle
>>>>
>>>> Times, they are a-changing. They hadn't even invented equilateral
>>>> right triangles when I was in eighth grade! ;-)
>>>
>>> Doh! Isosceles, then - 45/45/90 being the angles in units of degress.
>>>
>>
>> You can have an equilateral right triangle on a spherical surface - I expect
>> that's what you meant :-)
>
>Uh... yeah, yeah, that's it ":)
>

And after all, we are talking about a city on the earth. Then if we
assume an idealized spherical shape for the earth, we (well, someone)
probably can determine the size of those equilateral right triangular
blocks. ;-)
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From: Jesse F. Hughes on
alexy <nospam(a)asbry.net> writes:

> Les Cargill <lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Mike Terry wrote:
>>> "Les Cargill"<lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4bf449c8$0$15824$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>> alexy wrote:
>>>>> Les Cargill<lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this because the worst-case is SQRT(2) for running the sides
>>>>>> of an equilateral right triangle
>>>>>
>>>>> Times, they are a-changing. They hadn't even invented equilateral
>>>>> right triangles when I was in eighth grade! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Doh! Isosceles, then - 45/45/90 being the angles in units of degress.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can have an equilateral right triangle on a spherical surface - I expect
>>> that's what you meant :-)
>>
>>Uh... yeah, yeah, that's it ":)
>>
>
> And after all, we are talking about a city on the earth. Then if we
> assume an idealized spherical shape for the earth, we (well, someone)
> probably can determine the size of those equilateral right triangular
> blocks. ;-)

Shouldn't each such block take up 1/8 the surface area of the
earth, or am I being daft?

Which brings us to the great advantage of this plan: not much paving.

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From: alexy on
"Jesse F. Hughes" <jesse(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote:

>alexy <nospam(a)asbry.net> writes:
>
>> Les Cargill <lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Terry wrote:
>>>> "Les Cargill"<lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4bf449c8$0$15824$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>> alexy wrote:
>>>>>> Les Cargill<lcargill(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this because the worst-case is SQRT(2) for running the sides
>>>>>>> of an equilateral right triangle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Times, they are a-changing. They hadn't even invented equilateral
>>>>>> right triangles when I was in eighth grade! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Doh! Isosceles, then - 45/45/90 being the angles in units of degress.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can have an equilateral right triangle on a spherical surface - I expect
>>>> that's what you meant :-)
>>>
>>>Uh... yeah, yeah, that's it ":)
>>>
>>
>> And after all, we are talking about a city on the earth. Then if we
>> assume an idealized spherical shape for the earth, we (well, someone)
>> probably can determine the size of those equilateral right triangular
>> blocks. ;-)
>
>Shouldn't each such block take up 1/8 the surface area of the
>earth, or am I being daft?

Not daft at all. I just need another cup of coffee!

>Which brings us to the great advantage of this plan: not much paving.

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From: Jesse F. Hughes on
alexy <nospam(a)asbry.net> writes:

> "Jesse F. Hughes" <jesse(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote:
>
>>alexy <nospam(a)asbry.net> writes:
>>
>>> And after all, we are talking about a city on the earth. Then if we
>>> assume an idealized spherical shape for the earth, we (well, someone)
>>> probably can determine the size of those equilateral right triangular
>>> blocks. ;-)
>>
>>Shouldn't each such block take up 1/8 the surface area of the
>>earth, or am I being daft?
>
> Not daft at all. I just need another cup of coffee!
>
>>Which brings us to the great advantage of this plan: not much
>>paving.

There is a disadvantage to this plan I should mention. I think we'll
need a few fairly long bridges.


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