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From: Jerry on 4 Jul 2010 15:50 Correct - one copy per computer. I have one computer, one hard drive, two partitions - therefore I can only use one copy at a time as I can only boot into one operating system on one computer at a time. That's what the agreement says - in plain English. "Bobby Johnson" <rjohnson(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%23H0kWhuGLHA.1052(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > And if you read your End User License Agreement (EULA) is specifically > states there can be one, and only one, installation with a single key. > > 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. > a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the > software on one computer. That computer is the �licensed > computer.� > b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two > processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless > otherwise provided in these license terms, you may not use the > software on any other computer. > c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license > terms, only one user may use the software at a time. > d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than > one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may install and use > only one version at one time. > > > On 2010-07-03 15:35, Jerry wrote: >> One key and I used it to install the 32-bit and 64-bit versions in >> separate >> partitions - been that way for months and no problems have popped up. >> >> "David Sharp"<daveNOSPAMmsharp(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4F7BDC1F-C4AD-435A-B20F-B38FA742A58E(a)microsoft.com... >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've been happily using my copy of Windows 7 (boxed retail) for a while >>> now. I decided to reinstall I thought I'd make the jump to 64bit using >>> the >>> copy that came in the box. However, when it came to typing in the >>> product >>> key, it said that the key was invalid! I tripple checked it but to no >>> avail. I ended up installing the 32bit again. >>> >>> My question is, should the same product key work with both DVDs? Or >>> should >>> I have a 2nd license key which I never got? >>> >>> Many Thanks, >>> >>> Dave >> >>
From: Bobby Johnson on 4 Jul 2010 16:25 It's too bad you don't comprehend the English language better. (a.) States "...one copy on one computer." If you have two partitions, one with 32-bit and one with 64-bit, that is TWO (2)! One plus One equals Two A direct violation of the EULA. (d.) States "you may install and use only one version at one time." If you install 32-bit and 64-bit that is TWO (2) installs! A direct violation of the EULA Nowhere does it mention "...boot into one operating system on one computer at a time." Most courts don't accept ignorance as a plea of innocence. Especially since you must agree to acceptance of the EULA at some point to complete the installation. On 2010-07-04 15:50, Jerry wrote: > Correct - one copy per computer. I have one computer, one hard drive, two > partitions - therefore I can only use one copy at a time as I can only boot > into one operating system on one computer at a time. That's what the > agreement says - in plain English. > > "Bobby Johnson"<rjohnson(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:%23H0kWhuGLHA.1052(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> And if you read your End User License Agreement (EULA) is specifically >> states there can be one, and only one, installation with a single key. >> >> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. >> a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the >> software on one computer. That computer is the �licensed >> computer.� >> b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two >> processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless >> otherwise provided in these license terms, you may not use the >> software on any other computer. >> c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license >> terms, only one user may use the software at a time. >> d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than >> one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may install and use >> only one version at one time. >> >> >> On 2010-07-03 15:35, Jerry wrote: >>> One key and I used it to install the 32-bit and 64-bit versions in >>> separate >>> partitions - been that way for months and no problems have popped up. >>> >>> "David Sharp"<daveNOSPAMmsharp(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:4F7BDC1F-C4AD-435A-B20F-B38FA742A58E(a)microsoft.com... >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've been happily using my copy of Windows 7 (boxed retail) for a while >>>> now. I decided to reinstall I thought I'd make the jump to 64bit using >>>> the >>>> copy that came in the box. However, when it came to typing in the >>>> product >>>> key, it said that the key was invalid! I tripple checked it but to no >>>> avail. I ended up installing the 32bit again. >>>> >>>> My question is, should the same product key work with both DVDs? Or >>>> should >>>> I have a 2nd license key which I never got? >>>> >>>> Many Thanks, >>>> >>>> Dave >>> >>> > >
From: Shenan Stanley on 4 Jul 2010 18:02 <snipped> Jerry wrote: > One key and I used it to install the 32-bit and 64-bit versions in > separate partitions - been that way for months and no problems have > popped up. Bobby Johnson wrote: > And if you read your End User License Agreement (EULA) is > specifically states there can be one, and only one, installation > with a single key. > 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. > a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the > software on one computer. That computer is the �licensed > computer.� > b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two > processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless > otherwise provided in these license terms, you may not use the > software on any other computer. > c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license > terms, only one user may use the software at a time. > d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than > one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may install and use > only one version at one time. Jerry wrote: > Correct - one copy per computer. I have one computer, one hard > drive, two partitions - therefore I can only use one copy at a time > as I can only boot into one operating system on one computer at a > time. That's what the agreement says - in plain English. That would be true if the EULA stated you could only use/run/operate one copy at a time. It states you can only *install and use* - so you can, in accordance with the EULA, have only one copy installed *and* use that one copy. If it said "install or use", then you would have an argument. The *and* means that both cases must be true: *install* and *use*. As far as any problems showing up just because you have been able to do it - that's a moot point. I can steal all sorts of things and no problems will show up if I am 'smart' about it. Doesn't mean I am doing anything legitimate - just means I have found the loophole - whether or not that loophole should actually just be a 'proper way to use' is another question - but that is not one for discussion here in the Windows 64-bit General newsgroup, IMO. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
From: Jeff Gaines on 4 Jul 2010 18:06 On 04/07/2010 in message <#f$fCc7GLHA.5500(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Bobby Johnson wrote: >Most courts don't accept ignorance as a plea of innocence. Especially >since you must agree to acceptance of the EULA at some point to complete >the installation. It will depend on the Law in whatever country the OP is in. This question has come up many times before and certainly in England, and probably Europe, the courts tend to treat software rather like a book - if it can only be read by ne person at a time then that is OK. Certainly we don't kow-tow to MSFT or any other company, if they apply restrictions that the courts feel to be unreasonable or unfair they will not be upheld by the court. I don't get the impression that American law takes the same pragmatic approach. -- Jeff Gaines Dorset UK That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)
From: Lorne on 6 Jul 2010 06:14
"Bobby Johnson" <rjohnson(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:#f$fCc7GLHA.5500(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > It's too bad you don't comprehend the English language better. > (a.) States "...one copy on one computer." > > If you have two partitions, one with 32-bit and one with 64-bit, that is > TWO (2)! One plus One equals Two > > A direct violation of the EULA. > > (d.) States "you may install and use only one version at one time." > > If you install 32-bit and 64-bit that is TWO (2) installs! > > A direct violation of the EULA > > Nowhere does it mention "...boot into one operating system on one computer > at a time." > > Most courts don't accept ignorance as a plea of innocence. Especially > since you must agree to acceptance of the EULA at some point to complete > the installation. > Most courts will not rule this way because there is also an overriding unfair contract terms law that allows courts to refuse companies the right to impose unreasonable restrictions whatever their conditions say. Here it is impossible to use both systems at the same time (as long as they are on one computer) so in most countries Microsoft would lose if they tried to prosecute a home user with this setup. They courts will just say that common sense interprets their EULA to mean one user can use either operating system and if the user has both installed in a way that only one can be used at any time that is OK. I am basing this on experience in Europe - the USA may be different. |