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From: Rich Grise on 4 Oct 2007 13:17 On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:23:22 -0700, John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:43:22 -0400, Jamie >>Rich Grise wrote: >> >>> You'll never get back the energy it took to liquefy the O2. >>> >>You guys are funny, near us, we have a gambling casino, "Mohegan Sun" >> They have and have had for at least 4 years now that I know of >>3 Fuel cell generator complexes. These units operate the main facility >>100% with plenty of reserve. They obviously are self sufficient because >>all they ever need to do is replace mechanical things that wear out, >>which is normal in any generating facility. > > That's interesting. > > In 4.5 years, they generated about 16 MWH of electricity, worth around > $1.2 megabucks. And they paid $2.8M for equipment and $1.7M for fuel. > > It looks like there was a lot of maintanance costs, too. That's OK - the Indians have casinos, giving them an infinite supply of money. >:-> Cheers! Rich
From: jimp on 4 Oct 2007 13:35 In sci.physics Rich Grise <rich(a)example.net> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:55:02 +0000, jimp wrote: > > Do you understand the difference between combustion and a chemical > > reaction? > Then, please educate us. What, exactly, is the difference between > "combustion" and "a chemical reaction"? > Thanks, > Rich In the common vernacular, combustion occurs when you light a candle and a chemical reaction occurs when you toss a chunk of sodium in water. Or, in other words, things don't burn until the fuel is gas and the fuel/oxygen mix is brought to the ignition temperature, again in the common vernacular. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: Richard Henry on 4 Oct 2007 14:11 On Oct 4, 10:14 am, Rich Grise <r...(a)example.net> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:11:08 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > > Jamie wrote: > > >> You guys are funny, near us, we have a gambling casino, "Mohegan Sun" > >> They have and have had for at least 4 years now that I know of > >> 3 Fuel cell generator complexes. These units operate the main facility > >> 100% with plenty of reserve. They obviously are self sufficient because > >> all they ever need to do is replace mechanical things that wear out, > >> which is normal in any generating facility. > > > So where does the energy to replace 'the things that wear out' come from ? > > > Is this solar powered electrolytic hydrogen being used ? > > > How much did it cost ? How much power does it generate ? What's the price per > > kWh ? > > I just wonder where they're getting the hydrogen for these fuel > cells. Reformed natural gas.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 4 Oct 2007 14:41 John Larkin wrote: > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:41:17 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > Proudly displays his ignorance and hatred of everyone in the > >universe, like any troll should. > > Yeah, but I wonder if he's actually ever built anything useful, that > actually works. MAYBE an extension cord? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: John Larkin on 4 Oct 2007 15:29
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:35:03 GMT, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >Squirting LOX into a cylinder will tend to cool everything off >rather quickly, and perhaps too quickly. Rocket engines don't seem to mind. John |