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From: Mark Conrad on 4 Jan 2010 22:15 Darn, I am going to miss interesting articles like this in the future, because my limited finances required me to resign memberships in the ACM, IEEE, AAAI. ACM had this article recently, which among other things shows that those speech recognition apps we all find so "frustrating" might be totally obsolete in the future, because we will be able to create text automatically, directly from our thoughts. I also like the idea of being able to communicate with another person brain-to-brain, no talking necessary. Hmm, wonder if it would work brain-to-brain with animals also. - - - - - - - - The Future of Brain-Controlled Devices CNN.com (01/04/10) Hammock, Anne Several researchers are developing brain-computer interfaces (BCIs) to create new technologies for use in fields ranging from medicine and military operations to entertainment and video games. BCIs come in two basic varieties--noninvasive, which uses electrodes placed on the scalp to measure brain activity, and invasive, in which electrodes are connected directly to the brain. Georgia Tech University's Melody Moore Jackson leads research in neuroprosthetics and helped develop a smart wheelchair called the Aware Chair, which can be controlled by brain activity. Jackson also is working on an invasive procedure that would enable patients to type messages on a computer using just their thoughts. The University of Washington's Rajesh Rao is using a similar concept to develop robots that can do household chores for paralyzed people. Meanwhile, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Ed Boyden says tiny optical devices can be implanted that would enable blind people to see. "We don't know what the limits are yet," Jackson says. The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is working on a project known as Silent Talk that would allow soldiers to communicate with just their thoughts. Such technologies also open the door to ethical issues. "You can imagine communicating with your friends through the devices, and that opens up a lot of ethical issues," Rao says. - - - - - - - - Mark-
From: Nick Naym on 4 Jan 2010 22:33 In article 040120101915088545%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid, Mark Conrad at aeiou(a)mostly.invalid wrote on 1/4/10 10:15 PM: > > Darn, I am going to miss interesting articles > like this in the future, because my limited > finances required me to resign memberships in > the ACM, IEEE, AAAI. > > ACM had this article recently, which among > other things shows that those speech recognition > apps we all find so "frustrating" might be > totally obsolete in the future, because we will > be able to create text automatically, > directly from our thoughts. > > I also like the idea of being able to communicate > with another person brain-to-brain, no talking > necessary. > > Hmm, wonder if it would work brain-to-brain > with animals also. > > Take a sabbatical to check it out, and then report back to us. If that's not possible, just take a very long break. -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)
From: Mark Conrad on 5 Jan 2010 04:03 In article <C7681D21.4F375%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > > I also like the idea of being able to communicate > > with another person brain-to-brain, no talking > > necessary. > > > > Hmm, wonder if it would work brain-to-brain > > with animals also. > > > > > > > > Take a sabbatical to check it out, and then report back to us. > > If that's not possible, just take a very long break. Naw, that would disappoint you in this age of instant gratification, we can not have that. Just think of the possibilities with pet cats. "Fluffy, get away from that fishbowl". Inter-species communication. Actually, real thinking takes place so darn fast that we are really not aware of our own thoughts. e.g., we do not know what a thought "is made of", for sure. Words? Nope. It is very late in the process that a thought is finally changed into words. (or pictures, in case you are thinking Mona Lisa) Now what effect would all this have on: comp.sys.mac.system Profound, very profound indeed; enjoy your temporary "system" while you still have it. That "system" will become just as obsolete as the "system" on the Altair 8800 computer in 1975, which appeared in the "HomeBrew" computer club meetings in Palo Alto, California. Steve Jobs and "Woz" demonstrated their "Apple-1" computer a year later at one of the HomeBrew meetings. Personal computing was off-and-running, I bought my first Apple-2 computer. Operating "systems" came and went, getting ever more complex. Keyboards and mouse were still king, although starting about year 2000 speech recognition proved to be about twice faster than keyboard input in areas like medicine, very few doctors who were good at it ever went back to using keyboards. A child born now can look forward to running his personal computer by his thoughts, instead of by a keyboard. That concept is possible, in fact machines running by thoughts are already in existence, it is just a matter of time before keyboards will become obsolete, the same as the switches on the Altair computer became obsolete 35 years ago. Chew on those apples; it should be interesting to see what brand of sarcasm you come up with next. Mark-
From: Wes Groleau on 5 Jan 2010 23:32 Nick Naym wrote: > In article 040120101915088545%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid, Mark Conrad at > aeiou(a)mostly.invalid wrote on 1/4/10 10:15 PM: >> Darn, I am going to miss interesting articles >> like this in the future, because my limited >> finances required me to resign memberships in >> the ACM, IEEE, AAAI. And I'll miss interesting articles like that because my limited patience requires me to resign "mostly invalid" to the kill file. Not sure what he was going on about, but maybe it was related to http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/scientist-tweets-using-only-his-mind/ -- Wes Groleau From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth, From the laziness that is content with half-truths, From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth, O God of Truth, deliver us. --Leslie Dixon Weatherhead --Rabbi Mordechai M. Kaplan --ancient prayer --unknown --(no attempt at attribution) (a thousand thanks to someone who can tell me who really wrote it AND persuade me they're not making it up!)
From: Nick Naym on 6 Jan 2010 01:55
In article 050120100103431026%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid, Mark Conrad at aeiou(a)mostly.invalid wrote on 1/5/10 4:03 AM: > In article <C7681D21.4F375%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >>> I also like the idea of being able to communicate >>> with another person brain-to-brain, no talking >>> necessary. >>> >>> Hmm, wonder if it would work brain-to-brain >>> with animals also. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Take a sabbatical to check it out, and then report back to us. >> >> If that's not possible, just take a very long break. > > Naw, that would disappoint you in this age of > instant gratification, we can not have that. Not in this case. ;P > Just think of the possibilities with pet cats. > > "Fluffy, get away from that fishbowl". > > > Inter-species communication. Shhh! Dorayme may hear you! > Actually, real thinking takes place so darn fast that we > are really not aware of our own thoughts. You, Mark, are living, breathing proof of that. > e.g., we do not know what a thought "is made of", for sure. > > Words? Nope. > > It is very late in the process that a thought is finally changed > into words. (or pictures, in case you are thinking Mona Lisa) It is very late at night that I'm reading your drivel. > > Now what effect would all this have on: comp.sys.mac.system > > Profound, very profound indeed; enjoy your temporary "system" > while you still have it. > > That "system" will become just as obsolete as the "system" on the > Altair 8800 computer in 1975, which appeared in the "HomeBrew" > computer club meetings in Palo Alto, California. > > > Steve Jobs and "Woz" demonstrated their "Apple-1" computer > a year later at one of the HomeBrew meetings. You're on a psycho roll, Mark! > Personal computing was off-and-running, I bought my first > Apple-2 computer. > > Operating "systems" came and went, getting ever more complex. > > Keyboards and mouse were still king, although starting about > year 2000 speech recognition proved to be about twice faster > than keyboard input in areas like medicine, very few doctors > who were good at it ever went back to using keyboards. Were those the commie docs who now support Obamacare? > A child born now can look forward to running his personal > computer by his thoughts, instead of by a keyboard. > > That concept is possible, in fact machines running by thoughts > are already in existence, it is just a matter of time before > keyboards will become obsolete, the same as the switches on > the Altair computer became obsolete 35 years ago. > > Chew on those apples; it should be interesting to see what > brand of sarcasm you come up with next. There's one thing for sure: You're great fodder for the late-night comedians. > Mark- -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8) |