From: Greegor on
I live near the Mother Mosque of America (In Iowa!)
and much like New Jork, we have Islamic
people who have been Americans for 150+ years.
I find them to be more of honor and principle
than most other US Citizens and a supremely
important resource for the US military because
of language and culture.

What a terrible shame it would be if we were to
turn AMERICAN Islamic people against our own
country because of the emotional intolerance
and presumption that ALL Islamic people are
a threat to the USA.

If we can see past our emotional upset and live
up to the Constitutional ideals we will ensure
a military asset more valuable than any
technology, loyal AMERICAN Islamic people.

I am an economic conservative. Seal the borders.
From: Jim Thompson on
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <greegor47(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>I live near the Mother Mosque of America (In Iowa!)
>and much like New Jork, we have Islamic
>people who have been Americans for 150+ years.
>I find them to be more of honor and principle
>than most other US Citizens and a supremely
>important resource for the US military because
>of language and culture.
>
>What a terrible shame it would be if we were to
>turn AMERICAN Islamic people against our own
>country because of the emotional intolerance
>and presumption that ALL Islamic people are
>a threat to the USA.
>
>If we can see past our emotional upset and live
>up to the Constitutional ideals we will ensure
>a military asset more valuable than any
>technology, loyal AMERICAN Islamic people.
>
>I am an economic conservative. Seal the borders.

Indeed!

I think the problem in New York is the Imam behind the funding, and
the source of the funding itself (likely Saudi Arabia). It certainly
smells of "stick it to us" :-(

...Jim Thompson
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From: Oppie on
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:cs5j56tii36h28hfuccdjm8ap4urp87ob9(a)4ax.com...
> The lame-stream press is part of the problem. Used to be that the
> press was the watchdog... keeping the government semi-honest. Now the
> press performs the role of propagandist.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

And part of the reason for that is that journalism as we once knew it (noble
and independent) has for one reason or another gotten terribly lazy. They
are happy to accept the 'official statements' of the corporations and
politicos just to parrot them back to us without any checking... Hey, real
fact checking takes resources and money.
Oppie

From: mpm on
On Aug 4, 12:35 pm, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I live near the Mother Mosque of America (In Iowa!)
> and much like New Jork, we have Islamic
> people who have been Americans for 150+ years.
> I find them to be more of honor and principle
> than most other US Citizens and a supremely
> important resource for the US military because
> of language and culture.
>
> What a terrible shame it would be if we were to
> turn AMERICAN Islamic people against our own
> country because of the emotional intolerance
> and presumption that ALL Islamic people are
> a threat to the USA.
>
> If we can see past our emotional upset and live
> up to the Constitutional ideals we will ensure
> a military asset more valuable than any
> technology, loyal AMERICAN Islamic people.
>
> I am an economic conservative.  Seal the borders.

It often takes sacrifice to build a strong nation.
While I understand your points, the individuals in question here must
choose between being an American, and being Islamic - at least when it
comes to the proposed mosque in NYC.
And I suppose it's a bit of a false choice, since there are plenty of
mosqes anyway.

Is it that big a sacrifice to forego a mosque at ground zero??

What if I were Japanese and I wanted to build an Emperor's Palace atop
the US Arizona?

Or let's say I wanted to build a McDonalds atop the Kaaba.
My point being, it's insensitive.

I'm with the families and survivors on this one.
No mosque at Ground Zero.
Regardless of the motives, which I'm sure, at least in part are well-
intentioned, a mosque at Ground Zero is a terrorists version of "rally
'round the flag".

From: Nunya on
On Aug 4, 11:05 am, mpm <mpmill...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 4, 12:35 pm, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I live near the Mother Mosque of America (In Iowa!)
> > and much like New Jork, we have Islamic
> > people who have been Americans for 150+ years.
> > I find them to be more of honor and principle
> > than most other US Citizens and a supremely
> > important resource for the US military because
> > of language and culture.
>
> > What a terrible shame it would be if we were to
> > turn AMERICAN Islamic people against our own
> > country because of the emotional intolerance
> > and presumption that ALL Islamic people are
> > a threat to the USA.
>
> > If we can see past our emotional upset and live
> > up to the Constitutional ideals we will ensure
> > a military asset more valuable than any
> > technology, loyal AMERICAN Islamic people.
>
> > I am an economic conservative.  Seal the borders.
>
> It often takes sacrifice to build a strong nation.
> While I understand your points, the individuals in question here must
> choose between being an American, and being Islamic - at least when it
> comes to the proposed mosque in NYC.
> And I suppose it's a bit of a false choice, since there are plenty of
> mosqes anyway.
>
> Is it that big a sacrifice to forego a mosque at ground zero??
>
> What if I were Japanese and I wanted to build an Emperor's Palace atop
> the US Arizona?
>
> Or let's say I wanted to build a McDonalds atop the Kaaba.
> My point being, it's insensitive.
>
> I'm with the families and survivors on this one.
> No mosque at Ground Zero.
> Regardless of the motives, which I'm sure, at least in part are well-
> intentioned, a mosque at Ground Zero is a terrorists version of "rally
> 'round the flag".

Well said. AND we never hear these "non-violent' Islamics
denouncing the activities of the extremists.

That makes me suspicious, at the very least. And yes,
the Imam IS the main part of the problem, and makes it
even MORE suspicious.

They have plenty of mosques in that area already, and this
one should not only never be, it should be denounced as
what it is. An attempt at a claim of victory over an enemy
they claim we are not... until they decide to attack us again.
I am all for freedom of peaceful religions, but if it is not
peaceful, it does not qualify to be called a religion at all.

Their very doctrines contain hate and violence.

What the world should do is declare what qualifies as a religion.
The final analysis would only declare one as not being such.
It is truly sad that all these centuries, the rest of the world
has complacently stood by watching all the atrocities these
jerks have foisted onto the world.

We should eradicate every goddamned one of them,
and let God decide whether or not we were right. The
world would be a better place for it.

Sorry to all of those that were too stupid to realize
that hate and killing is what got them the result they
sought. They can be alone in their graves, with
their religion.

So to all that do not, on a daily basis, denounce ALL
activities by ALL Muslims that are against any and
all free nations, you will see no mercy.

Kill 'em. Kill 'em all. Shed ONE tear afterward
to cover the failure to do it forty years ago.
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