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From: otter on 22 Jul 2010 23:30 On Jul 22, 10:08 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 10:04 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >On Jul 22, 9:52 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Jul 22, 6:15 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > On Jul 22, 11:52 am, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > > >> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > >> > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > >> > > >> Available for viewing, and located here: > > > >> > > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/pinhole_ii > > > >> > > >Last night I wrote a long and detailed commentary on all the pictures > > >> > > >of the SI, and when I went to submit it my computer froze, and I > > >> > > >wasn't even able to capture the text in notepad. I consider that an > > >> > > >omen. So I will just make a few brief comments. > > > >> > > >First, I think everyone will agree that this was a difficult > > >> > > >challenge. To try to find something interesting at random locations > > >> > > >that are usually quite plain is a real test. On the other hand I'm > > >> > > >glad to have tried it, and think I learned something. If nothing > > >> > > >else, to look at everyday places in a different way, as possible photo > > >> > > >opportunities. > > > >> > > >Comments: > > > >> > > >- The photo of the SI for me was Bowser's pidgeons. You could tell > > >> > > >they were hot and thirsty. I thought the picture could be better, > > >> > > >though, if the boaters and the other things on the water were stamped > > >> > > >out. I sent Bowser a modified version to show what I mean. It only > > >> > > >took a few minutes in photoshop. I even Siskerized the sky. I didn't > > >> > > >feel right putting the modified pic on my website, so I'll let Bowser > > >> > > >decide whether to show it. > > > >> > > Thanks for the compliments! I did reply to your mail, and asked that > > >> > > you market the photo, sell it, make a ton of money, and then send me > > >> > > the money. > > > >> > > I'm good with that. > > > >> > Yeah, OK, I'll get started on it. :-)- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > >> OK here is my version of Bowser's pidgeons, complete with Siskerized > > >> sky. I could go either way with the sky, but notice that the "make > > >> dull skies blue" tool applies a gradient to make it blend better, > > >> unlike John's attempts. > > > >> I can also possibly see leaving the white bouys in, but the boat > > >> people have to go. > > > >> If anyone wants to buy this, send me money, and I'll pass it on to > > >> Bowser. > > > >> - Otter- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > >Doh! It would help if I gave the link: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4820106670/sizes/l/in/set-7.... > > > For some reason I see something in this version, that I didn't see in > > the original version, that bothers me: the wedge of sky makes it look > > like the horizon is badly tilted even though the actual shoreline *is* > > straight. Perhaps it's because the sky is brighter or perhaps it's > > because we're simply over-analyzing the photo. > > > I really liked the original in the Shoot-In. Now I'm looking at > > everything except the pigeons. > > > -- > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Yeah, probably better without the blue sky.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK, how about this one. Minimal edits, just to get rid of the boat people: http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/
From: Savageduck on 22 Jul 2010 23:35 On 2010-07-22 18:08:54 -0700, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> said: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:44:20 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> > wrote: > : "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > : news:hsbf46lianuui5emcuipq1a9qk9d0b5f89(a)4ax.com... > : > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter > : > <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > : > > : >> I even Siskerized the sky. > : > > : > A new word may have emerged in the lexicon of the photographer. > : > > : > John may go down in history as a modern Thomas Bowdler, Mrs Malaprop, > : > and other eponymous figures. > > : Your comment blew over my head > > I'll gladly refudiate that. > > Bob A "sarasolipsism"? -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Tim Conway on 22 Jul 2010 23:50 "otter" <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7e946934-b2b1-4d91-a3a9-aa08b37e3112(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... On Jul 22, 10:08 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 10:04 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >On Jul 22, 9:52 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Jul 22, 6:15 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > On Jul 22, 11:52 am, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > > >> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > >> > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > >> > > >> Available for viewing, and located here: > > > >> > > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/pinhole_ii > > > >> > > >Last night I wrote a long and detailed commentary on all the > > >> > > >pictures > > >> > > >of the SI, and when I went to submit it my computer froze, and I > > >> > > >wasn't even able to capture the text in notepad. I consider that > > >> > > >an > > >> > > >omen. So I will just make a few brief comments. > > > >> > > >First, I think everyone will agree that this was a difficult > > >> > > >challenge. To try to find something interesting at random > > >> > > >locations > > >> > > >that are usually quite plain is a real test. On the other hand > > >> > > >I'm > > >> > > >glad to have tried it, and think I learned something. If nothing > > >> > > >else, to look at everyday places in a different way, as possible > > >> > > >photo > > >> > > >opportunities. > > > >> > > >Comments: > > > >> > > >- The photo of the SI for me was Bowser's pidgeons. You could > > >> > > >tell > > >> > > >they were hot and thirsty. I thought the picture could be > > >> > > >better, > > >> > > >though, if the boaters and the other things on the water were > > >> > > >stamped > > >> > > >out. I sent Bowser a modified version to show what I mean. It > > >> > > >only > > >> > > >took a few minutes in photoshop. I even Siskerized the sky. I > > >> > > >didn't > > >> > > >feel right putting the modified pic on my website, so I'll let > > >> > > >Bowser > > >> > > >decide whether to show it. > > > >> > > Thanks for the compliments! I did reply to your mail, and asked > > >> > > that > > >> > > you market the photo, sell it, make a ton of money, and then send > > >> > > me > > >> > > the money. > > > >> > > I'm good with that. > > > >> > Yeah, OK, I'll get started on it. :-)- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > >> OK here is my version of Bowser's pidgeons, complete with Siskerized > > >> sky. I could go either way with the sky, but notice that the "make > > >> dull skies blue" tool applies a gradient to make it blend better, > > >> unlike John's attempts. > > > >> I can also possibly see leaving the white bouys in, but the boat > > >> people have to go. > > > >> If anyone wants to buy this, send me money, and I'll pass it on to > > >> Bowser. > > > >> - Otter- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > >Doh! It would help if I gave the link: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4820106670/sizes/l/in/set-7... > > > For some reason I see something in this version, that I didn't see in > > the original version, that bothers me: the wedge of sky makes it look > > like the horizon is badly tilted even though the actual shoreline *is* > > straight. Perhaps it's because the sky is brighter or perhaps it's > > because we're simply over-analyzing the photo. > > > I really liked the original in the Shoot-In. Now I'm looking at > > everything except the pigeons. > > > -- > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Yeah, probably better without the blue sky.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >OK, how about this one. Minimal edits, just to get rid of the boat >people: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ I think it's perfect except for two things - the two white spots above the left pigeon. Fantastic shot otherwise.
From: otter on 23 Jul 2010 00:19 On Jul 22, 10:50 pm, "Tim Conway" <tconway_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > "otter" <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:7e946934-b2b1-4d91-a3a9-aa08b37e3112(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 22, 10:08 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 10:04 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >On Jul 22, 9:52 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Jul 22, 6:15 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > On Jul 22, 11:52 am, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > > > >> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > > >> > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > >On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > > >> > > >> Available for viewing, and located here: > > > > >> > > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/pinhole_ii > > > > >> > > >Last night I wrote a long and detailed commentary on all the > > > >> > > >pictures > > > >> > > >of the SI, and when I went to submit it my computer froze, and I > > > >> > > >wasn't even able to capture the text in notepad. I consider that > > > >> > > >an > > > >> > > >omen. So I will just make a few brief comments. > > > > >> > > >First, I think everyone will agree that this was a difficult > > > >> > > >challenge. To try to find something interesting at random > > > >> > > >locations > > > >> > > >that are usually quite plain is a real test. On the other hand > > > >> > > >I'm > > > >> > > >glad to have tried it, and think I learned something. If nothing > > > >> > > >else, to look at everyday places in a different way, as possible > > > >> > > >photo > > > >> > > >opportunities. > > > > >> > > >Comments: > > > > >> > > >- The photo of the SI for me was Bowser's pidgeons. You could > > > >> > > >tell > > > >> > > >they were hot and thirsty. I thought the picture could be > > > >> > > >better, > > > >> > > >though, if the boaters and the other things on the water were > > > >> > > >stamped > > > >> > > >out. I sent Bowser a modified version to show what I mean. It > > > >> > > >only > > > >> > > >took a few minutes in photoshop. I even Siskerized the sky. I > > > >> > > >didn't > > > >> > > >feel right putting the modified pic on my website, so I'll let > > > >> > > >Bowser > > > >> > > >decide whether to show it. > > > > >> > > Thanks for the compliments! I did reply to your mail, and asked > > > >> > > that > > > >> > > you market the photo, sell it, make a ton of money, and then send > > > >> > > me > > > >> > > the money. > > > > >> > > I'm good with that. > > > > >> > Yeah, OK, I'll get started on it. :-)- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > >> OK here is my version of Bowser's pidgeons, complete with Siskerized > > > >> sky. I could go either way with the sky, but notice that the "make > > > >> dull skies blue" tool applies a gradient to make it blend better, > > > >> unlike John's attempts. > > > > >> I can also possibly see leaving the white bouys in, but the boat > > > >> people have to go. > > > > >> If anyone wants to buy this, send me money, and I'll pass it on to > > > >> Bowser. > > > > >> - Otter- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > >Doh! It would help if I gave the link: > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4820106670/sizes/l/in/set-7... > > > > For some reason I see something in this version, that I didn't see in > > > the original version, that bothers me: the wedge of sky makes it look > > > like the horizon is badly tilted even though the actual shoreline *is* > > > straight. Perhaps it's because the sky is brighter or perhaps it's > > > because we're simply over-analyzing the photo. > > > > I really liked the original in the Shoot-In. Now I'm looking at > > > everything except the pigeons. > > > > -- > > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Yeah, probably better without the blue sky.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > >OK, how about this one. Minimal edits, just to get rid of the boat > >people: > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ > > I think it's perfect except for two things - the two white spots above the > left pigeon. Fantastic shot otherwise.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ You mean like this?
From: otter on 23 Jul 2010 00:21
On Jul 22, 11:19 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 10:50 pm, "Tim Conway" <tconway_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > "otter" <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:7e946934-b2b1-4d91-a3a9-aa08b37e3112(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > On Jul 22, 10:08 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 22, 10:04 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >On Jul 22, 9:52 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> On Jul 22, 6:15 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > On Jul 22, 11:52 am, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > > > > >> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > > > >> > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > >On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > > > >> > > >> Available for viewing, and located here: > > > > > >> > > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/pinhole_ii > > > > > >> > > >Last night I wrote a long and detailed commentary on all the > > > > >> > > >pictures > > > > >> > > >of the SI, and when I went to submit it my computer froze, and I > > > > >> > > >wasn't even able to capture the text in notepad. I consider that > > > > >> > > >an > > > > >> > > >omen. So I will just make a few brief comments. > > > > > >> > > >First, I think everyone will agree that this was a difficult > > > > >> > > >challenge. To try to find something interesting at random > > > > >> > > >locations > > > > >> > > >that are usually quite plain is a real test. On the other hand > > > > >> > > >I'm > > > > >> > > >glad to have tried it, and think I learned something. If nothing > > > > >> > > >else, to look at everyday places in a different way, as possible > > > > >> > > >photo > > > > >> > > >opportunities. > > > > > >> > > >Comments: > > > > > >> > > >- The photo of the SI for me was Bowser's pidgeons. You could > > > > >> > > >tell > > > > >> > > >they were hot and thirsty. I thought the picture could be > > > > >> > > >better, > > > > >> > > >though, if the boaters and the other things on the water were > > > > >> > > >stamped > > > > >> > > >out. I sent Bowser a modified version to show what I mean. It > > > > >> > > >only > > > > >> > > >took a few minutes in photoshop. I even Siskerized the sky. I > > > > >> > > >didn't > > > > >> > > >feel right putting the modified pic on my website, so I'll let > > > > >> > > >Bowser > > > > >> > > >decide whether to show it. > > > > > >> > > Thanks for the compliments! I did reply to your mail, and asked > > > > >> > > that > > > > >> > > you market the photo, sell it, make a ton of money, and then send > > > > >> > > me > > > > >> > > the money. > > > > > >> > > I'm good with that. > > > > > >> > Yeah, OK, I'll get started on it. :-)- Hide quoted text - > > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > >> OK here is my version of Bowser's pidgeons, complete with Siskerized > > > > >> sky. I could go either way with the sky, but notice that the "make > > > > >> dull skies blue" tool applies a gradient to make it blend better, > > > > >> unlike John's attempts. > > > > > >> I can also possibly see leaving the white bouys in, but the boat > > > > >> people have to go. > > > > > >> If anyone wants to buy this, send me money, and I'll pass it on to > > > > >> Bowser. > > > > > >> - Otter- Hide quoted text - > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > >Doh! It would help if I gave the link: > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4820106670/sizes/l/in/set-7... > > > > > For some reason I see something in this version, that I didn't see in > > > > the original version, that bothers me: the wedge of sky makes it look > > > > like the horizon is badly tilted even though the actual shoreline *is* > > > > straight. Perhaps it's because the sky is brighter or perhaps it's > > > > because we're simply over-analyzing the photo. > > > > > I really liked the original in the Shoot-In. Now I'm looking at > > > > everything except the pigeons. > > > > > -- > > > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Yeah, probably better without the blue sky.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > >OK, how about this one. Minimal edits, just to get rid of the boat > > >people: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ > > > I think it's perfect except for two things - the two white spots above the > > left pigeon. Fantastic shot otherwise.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ > > You mean like this?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Oops, wrong link. This one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819673649/sizes/l/ |