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From: tony cooper on 23 Jul 2010 00:24 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT), otter <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 22, 11:19�pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 22, 10:50�pm, "Tim Conway" <tconway_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "otter" <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:7e946934-b2b1-4d91-a3a9-aa08b37e3112(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> > On Jul 22, 10:08 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > On Jul 22, 10:04 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT), otter >> >> > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >On Jul 22, 9:52 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> On Jul 22, 6:15 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > >> > On Jul 22, 11:52 am, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: >> >> > > > >> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter >> >> > > > >> > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Available for viewing, and located here: >> >> > > > >> > > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/pinhole_ii >> >> > > > >> > > >Last night I wrote a long and detailed commentary on all the >> > > > >> > > >pictures >> > > > >> > > >of the SI, and when I went to submit it my computer froze, and I >> > > > >> > > >wasn't even able to capture the text in notepad. I consider that >> > > > >> > > >an >> > > > >> > > >omen. So I will just make a few brief comments. >> >> > > > >> > > >First, I think everyone will agree that this was a difficult >> > > > >> > > >challenge. To try to find something interesting at random >> > > > >> > > >locations >> > > > >> > > >that are usually quite plain is a real test. On the other hand >> > > > >> > > >I'm >> > > > >> > > >glad to have tried it, and think I learned something. If nothing >> > > > >> > > >else, to look at everyday places in a different way, as possible >> > > > >> > > >photo >> > > > >> > > >opportunities. >> >> > > > >> > > >Comments: >> >> > > > >> > > >- The photo of the SI for me was Bowser's pidgeons. You could >> > > > >> > > >tell >> > > > >> > > >they were hot and thirsty. I thought the picture could be >> > > > >> > > >better, >> > > > >> > > >though, if the boaters and the other things on the water were >> > > > >> > > >stamped >> > > > >> > > >out. I sent Bowser a modified version to show what I mean. It >> > > > >> > > >only >> > > > >> > > >took a few minutes in photoshop. I even Siskerized the sky. I >> > > > >> > > >didn't >> > > > >> > > >feel right putting the modified pic on my website, so I'll let >> > > > >> > > >Bowser >> > > > >> > > >decide whether to show it. >> >> > > > >> > > Thanks for the compliments! I did reply to your mail, and asked >> > > > >> > > that >> > > > >> > > you market the photo, sell it, make a ton of money, and then send >> > > > >> > > me >> > > > >> > > the money. >> >> > > > >> > > I'm good with that. >> >> > > > >> > Yeah, OK, I'll get started on it. :-)- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> > > > >> OK here is my version of Bowser's pidgeons, complete with Siskerized >> > > > >> sky. I could go either way with the sky, but notice that the "make >> > > > >> dull skies blue" tool applies a gradient to make it blend better, >> > > > >> unlike John's attempts. >> >> > > > >> I can also possibly see leaving the white bouys in, but the boat >> > > > >> people have to go. >> >> > > > >> If anyone wants to buy this, send me money, and I'll pass it on to >> > > > >> Bowser. >> >> > > > >> - Otter- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > > > >Doh! It would help if I gave the link: >> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4820106670/sizes/l/in/set-7... >> >> > > > For some reason I see something in this version, that I didn't see in >> > > > the original version, that bothers me: the wedge of sky makes it look >> > > > like the horizon is badly tilted even though the actual shoreline *is* >> > > > straight. Perhaps it's because the sky is brighter or perhaps it's >> > > > because we're simply over-analyzing the photo. >> >> > > > I really liked the original in the Shoot-In. Now I'm looking at >> > > > everything except the pigeons. >> >> > > > -- >> > > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > > Yeah, probably better without the blue sky.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> > >OK, how about this one. �Minimal edits, just to get rid of the boat >> > >people: >> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ >> >> > I think it's perfect except for two things - the two white spots above the >> > left pigeon. �Fantastic shot otherwise.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ >> >> You mean like this?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Oops, wrong link. This one: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819673649/sizes/l/ Stop before you clone or crop out the pigeons. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: otter on 23 Jul 2010 00:32 On Jul 22, 11:24 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT), otter > > > > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >On Jul 22, 11:19 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jul 22, 10:50 pm, "Tim Conway" <tconway_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >> > "otter" <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >news:7e946934-b2b1-4d91-a3a9-aa08b37e3112(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com.... > >> > On Jul 22, 10:08 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > On Jul 22, 10:04 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >> > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT), otter > > >> > > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >On Jul 22, 9:52 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> On Jul 22, 6:15 pm, otter <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > On Jul 22, 11:52 am, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT), otter > > >> > > > >> > > <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > >On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Bowser <Ca...(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > >> Available for viewing, and located here: > > >> > > > >> > > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/pinhole_ii > > >> > > > >> > > >Last night I wrote a long and detailed commentary on all the > >> > > > >> > > >pictures > >> > > > >> > > >of the SI, and when I went to submit it my computer froze, and I > >> > > > >> > > >wasn't even able to capture the text in notepad. I consider that > >> > > > >> > > >an > >> > > > >> > > >omen. So I will just make a few brief comments. > > >> > > > >> > > >First, I think everyone will agree that this was a difficult > >> > > > >> > > >challenge. To try to find something interesting at random > >> > > > >> > > >locations > >> > > > >> > > >that are usually quite plain is a real test. On the other hand > >> > > > >> > > >I'm > >> > > > >> > > >glad to have tried it, and think I learned something. If nothing > >> > > > >> > > >else, to look at everyday places in a different way, as possible > >> > > > >> > > >photo > >> > > > >> > > >opportunities. > > >> > > > >> > > >Comments: > > >> > > > >> > > >- The photo of the SI for me was Bowser's pidgeons. You could > >> > > > >> > > >tell > >> > > > >> > > >they were hot and thirsty. I thought the picture could be > >> > > > >> > > >better, > >> > > > >> > > >though, if the boaters and the other things on the water were > >> > > > >> > > >stamped > >> > > > >> > > >out. I sent Bowser a modified version to show what I mean. It > >> > > > >> > > >only > >> > > > >> > > >took a few minutes in photoshop. I even Siskerized the sky. I > >> > > > >> > > >didn't > >> > > > >> > > >feel right putting the modified pic on my website, so I'll let > >> > > > >> > > >Bowser > >> > > > >> > > >decide whether to show it. > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for the compliments! I did reply to your mail, and asked > >> > > > >> > > that > >> > > > >> > > you market the photo, sell it, make a ton of money, and then send > >> > > > >> > > me > >> > > > >> > > the money. > > >> > > > >> > > I'm good with that. > > >> > > > >> > Yeah, OK, I'll get started on it. :-)- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > >> OK here is my version of Bowser's pidgeons, complete with Siskerized > >> > > > >> sky. I could go either way with the sky, but notice that the "make > >> > > > >> dull skies blue" tool applies a gradient to make it blend better, > >> > > > >> unlike John's attempts. > > >> > > > >> I can also possibly see leaving the white bouys in, but the boat > >> > > > >> people have to go. > > >> > > > >> If anyone wants to buy this, send me money, and I'll pass it on to > >> > > > >> Bowser. > > >> > > > >> - Otter- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > >Doh! It would help if I gave the link: > >> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4820106670/sizes/l/in/set-7... > > >> > > > For some reason I see something in this version, that I didn't see in > >> > > > the original version, that bothers me: the wedge of sky makes it look > >> > > > like the horizon is badly tilted even though the actual shoreline *is* > >> > > > straight. Perhaps it's because the sky is brighter or perhaps it's > >> > > > because we're simply over-analyzing the photo. > > >> > > > I really liked the original in the Shoot-In. Now I'm looking at > >> > > > everything except the pigeons. > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > - Show quoted text - > > >> > > Yeah, probably better without the blue sky.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > >> > >OK, how about this one. Minimal edits, just to get rid of the boat > >> > >people: > >> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ > > >> > I think it's perfect except for two things - the two white spots above the > >> > left pigeon. Fantastic shot otherwise.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819577477/sizes/l/ > > >> You mean like this?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Oops, wrong link. This one: > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819673649/sizes/l/ > > Stop before you clone or crop out the pigeons. > > -- > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yeah, I'm done. :-) I hope Bowser, doesn't mind too much this experimentation with his photo. I think I actually like the one with the bouys the best. Although a little distracting, it adds a bit of interest to the shot, and makes it more believable.
From: Savageduck on 23 Jul 2010 01:20 On 2010-07-22 21:24:05 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT), otter > <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > < Le Cooper Snip> >> Oops, wrong link. This one: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4819673649/sizes/l/ > > Stop before you clone or crop out the pigeons. Then you might end up with a pigeon and a savage duck; < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Pidg+SD.jpg > -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Savageduck on 23 Jul 2010 01:49 On 2010-07-22 22:32:12 -0700, SneakyP <48umofa02(a)WHITELISTONLYsneakemail.com> said: > Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in news:8sph461nh6b60sntf9ir7sv390h023j43i@ > 4ax.com: > >> >> > > Bozobin on something other than the "From" line. > > It works on all twenty some sockpuppets of the same troll > I promise. Actually that is a current total of 91 sockpuppets, 42 with the current server and 49 with the old server. Some are a variation on a theme. ....and yes it is simpler to work on other than the "From" line. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: LOL! on 23 Jul 2010 04:07
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:32:12 -0500, SneakyP <48umofa02(a)WHITELISTONLYsneakemail.com> wrote: >Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in news:8sph461nh6b60sntf9ir7sv390h023j43i@ >4ax.com: > >> >> > >Bozobin on something other than the "From" line. > >It works on all twenty some sockpuppets of the same troll >I promise. Just because I make them all look like the crapshooting fools and trolls that they are, doesn't mean that all of them are so foolish as to not realize the valuable photography information that I also post to them. You're pissing into the wind. LOL! |