The Symmetric Twin Paradox [Physics]

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From: Peter Webb on 17 Jun 2010 03:08

"Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wublee(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 16, 10:47 pm, "Peter Webb" wrote:
>> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I am saying the GPS will function fine with compensating for
>> > relativistic effect if it really does exist.
>>
>> So your position is that the GPS system does take into account
>> Relativistic
>> effects?
>
> Sorry, I meant "without" instead of "with". You know it is a late
> night thing in my time zone. <shrug and yawn>
>

So your position is that the GPS system does NOT take into account
Relativistic effects?

From: Peter Webb on 17 Jun 2010 03:10

"Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wublee(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 16, 11:36 pm, "Peter Webb" < wrote:
>> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Yes, absolutely. This is all in the mathematics of the Lorentz
>> > transform. As I said, you need to understand the Lorentz transforms
>> > before coming to these forums to trumpet how ignorant and mystified
>> > you are. <shrug>
>>
>> And do you believe that all of the other predictions of SR are correct?
>
> I have pointed out SR is a mathematical mistake of Poincare based on a
> more robust Aether-centric Larmor's original transform. Thus, SR will
> not correctly predict ALL experimental results.

OK, which experimental results are not correctly predicted by SR ?

From: Sue... on 17 Jun 2010 03:39

On Jun 17, 3:10 am, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d460e60d-f87f-4ce3-a805-b2568bbfb87b(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 16, 11:36 pm, "Peter Webb" < wrote:
> >> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Yes, absolutely. This is all in the mathematics of the Lorentz
> >> > transform. As I said, you need to understand the Lorentz transforms
> >> > before coming to these forums to trumpet how ignorant and mystified
> >> > you are. <shrug>
>
> >> And do you believe that all of the other predictions of SR are correct?
>
> > I have pointed out SR is a mathematical mistake of Poincare based on a
> > more robust Aether-centric Larmor's original transform. Thus, SR will
> > not correctly predict ALL experimental results.
>

-------------------

> OK, which experimental results are not correctly predicted by SR ?

All the experiments that involve matter are
incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method#Experiments

<<...circularity in the definition of inertia and the inability
to justify the privileged position held by inertial worldlines
in special relativity were among the problems that led Einstein
in the years following 1905 to seek a broader and more coherent
context for the laws of physics. In the introduction of his 1916
review paper on general relativity he wrote

The weakness of the principle of inertia lies in this,
that it involves an argument in a circle: a mass moves
without acceleration if it is sufficiently far from other
bodies; we know that it is sufficiently far from other
bodies only by the fact that it moves without acceleration.>>

<< Today the "special theory" exists only, aside from its
historical importance, as a convenient set of widely
applicable formulas for important limiting cases of the
general theory, but the epistemological foundation of those
formulas must be sought in the context of the general theory.>>
http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s4-07/4-07.htm

Sue...

From: Koobee Wublee on 17 Jun 2010 03:40

On Jun 17, 12:10 am, "Peter Webb" wrote:
> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > I have pointed out SR is a mathematical mistake of Poincare based on a
> > more robust Aether-centric Larmor's original transform. Thus, SR will
> > not correctly predict ALL experimental results.
>
> OK, which experimental results are not correctly predicted by SR ?

All. <shrug>

A better and more intelligent question is which interpreted
experimental results validate SR. The answer is none. <shrug>

As an example, Keating's experiment did not falsify Larmor's original
transform. It certainly does not validate SR. <shrug>

From: Koobee Wublee on 17 Jun 2010 03:50

On Jun 17, 12:08 am, "Peter Webb" wrote:
> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > Sorry, I meant "without" instead of "with". You know it is a late
> > night thing in my time zone. <shrug and yawn>
>
> So your position is that the GPS system does NOT take into account
> Relativistic effects?

My position is that the GPS can function with or without the effects
of GR. Claiming GR as an application of the GPS is a total lie.
<shrug>

Ps. Where is the ever so prolific word-salad generator, Professor
Roberts? Yours truly is not very active in these forums except in the
past few days. Could the good professor be foaming in his mouth in
shock after realizing the truth explained in the posts of the ever so
humble yours truly that his life was a total worthless of pursuits of
myths upon more myths? Is he now realizing the silliness in
worshipping a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar such as Einstein the
nobody? Luckily in his lifetime, there is this ever so humble yours
truly who would guide him to the side of physics that is free from
mysticisms and lies. <shrug>

The stupid Einstein Dingleberries don't realize it, but the smarter
ones have sensed checkmate long before this. So, <CHECKMATE> TO MORE
INTELLIGENT EINSTEIN DINGLEBERRIES. Ahahaha... hanson style.
<shrug>