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From: stephe_k on 19 Sep 2009 14:05 mikey4 wrote: > <stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... >> mikey4 wrote: >> >>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that the >>> "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time. >> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING >> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >> >> Stephanie > > My point here Stephanie is that this entire mess is a result of *both* > parties screwing the pooch for *years and years and years*. The republicans > win by a land slide and they *think* they have a mandate, they don't, people > were sick and tired of what the dems were doing. The dems win by ands land > slide and well, you finish the sentence. > They have us right where they want us, squabbling about this party did that > and the other party did this. > News flash, BOTH PARTIES are doing US.!!! > > Did I ever say I was a democrat? There are some republicans I am OK with too. Overall I think NONE of them are representing us. I guess I just feel Obama has my interests more at heart than GWB ever did. BTW GWB won by the smallest margin in history yet claimed a "mandate". Stephanie
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 14:20 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab51751$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>>><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> mikey4 wrote: > >>>>>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that >>>>>> the >>>>>> "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time. >>>>> >>>>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>>>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do >>>>> NOTHING >>>>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>>>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>>>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>>>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>>My point here Stephanie is that this entire mess is a result of *both* >>>>parties screwing the pooch for *years and years and years*. >>> >>> It is a fundamental policy of republicans to cut taxes for the rich >>> and reduce or eliminate government regulation while allowing >>> corporations free reign. Those policies cause this current economic >>> climate. >>> >>> Lack of regulation allowed the finanicial collapse. Cutting taxes for >>> the rich left the middle class further in debt. Free reign for >>> corporations allowed them to cut worker salaries in order to give >>> countless millions to execs. >>> >>> And when the middle class doesn't have money to spend, and when the >>> financial industry collapses, and when the rich ship their money out >>> of the country, then you get an economy that's in the toilet. >>> >>> -- >>Here we go with rays typical response. There was no lack of regulation >>ray, >>you really need to read up on the SEC and how it came about. > > For the stupid: There were insufficient regulations to control the > sort of financial instruments that led to the collapse. > For the putz, next time say so. Try reading about the SEC anyway.
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 14:22 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab5180c$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... > >>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING >>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>> >>> Stephanie >>I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". >>the >>last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you >>have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell me..... > > That's the sort of ignorant thinking that gets rightards into trouble. > > There are many ways the wealthy get to pay lower taxes. Her's one: > Long-term capital gains and dividens aren't taxed as regular income. > It's a flat 15% even before you find any deductions. So, if you own a > ton of stock that pays you $250/yr in dividends then you pay no more > than 15% of that as income tax. If you are given $100,000,000 in > stock by the company and you sell it a year later, you pay 15%. > > -- Mean while dip sh.t, the liberal government you love so much just keeps right on spending.
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 14:27 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab51946$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>> Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>>>"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message > >>>>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so badly >>>>>> that >>>>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. But >>>>>> you >>>>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you? >>>>> [Nonsense deleted...] >>>>> >>>>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where >>>>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?) >>>> >>>>What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any >>>>differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to the >>>>core. >>> >>> If that's true then it must also be true of the Republican party given >>> the number of Republicans who have been shown to be lying, >>> philandering hypocrites. >> >>Just like the lefttards > > Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance. > mikey in <h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> > -- Snip away ray there are a few of us who know your true colors.
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 14:27
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab5199f$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote: >>"Walter Banks" <walter(a)bytecraft.com> wrote in message > >>> All the Canadian patients who come to the US for necessary >>> health care have the costs paid for by the Canadian health >>> care system. That includes elective procedures. >> >>No, I don't think so. > > You don't think. > >>> The spending in Canada is about half per person of the >>> US health costs. >> >>Because it's rationed. > > That's a bald-faced lie. > > It's the US that rations health care. People die as a result. > > -- Prove it ray. |