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From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 18:20 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab555b8$0$1607$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>news:4ab51c73$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>>><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... >>> >>>>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>>>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do >>>>> NOTHING >>>>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>>>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>>>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>>>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>>I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". >>>>the >>>>last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you >>>>have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell >>>>me..... >>> >>> That's the sort of ignorant thinking that gets rightards into trouble. >>> >>> There are many ways the wealthy get to pay lower taxes. Here's one: >>> >>> Long-term capital gains and dividends aren't taxed as regular income. >>> It's a flat 15% even before you find any deductions. So, if you own a >>> ton of stock that pays you $250,000/yr in dividends then you pay no more >>> than 15% of that as income tax. If you are given $100,000,000 in >>> stock by the company and you sell it a year later, you pay 15%. >>> >>> If you earn $150,000 as straight salary then you pay about twice as >>> much. >>> >>> -- >>and if you are ray and have little to no stock you pay little or nothing. > > Awww. mikey is feeling cranky again because he's stupid. He doesn't > know about taxes and stock dividends and assumes that others are as > stupid as he is. > > -- LOL
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 18:28 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab55678$0$1607$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>news:4ab51946$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>> Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>>>>>"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>> >>>>>>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so badly >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. But >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you? >>>>>>> [Nonsense deleted...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where >>>>>>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?) >>>>>> >>>>>>What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any >>>>>>differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to the >>>>>>core. >>>>> >>>>> If that's true then it must also be true of the Republican party given >>>>> the number of Republicans who have been shown to be lying, >>>>> philandering hypocrites. >>>> >>>>Just like the lefttards >>> >>> Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance. >>> mikey in <h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> >>> -- >>Snip away ray > > Run away, hypocrite. > > It's always so easy to argue against you rightards jut by throwing > your own words back at you. > > -- ok got it, which post are you referring to? or can't you post the entire text here.
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 18:32 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4ab556db$0$1607$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>news:4ab5199f$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>> Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote: >>>>"Walter Banks" <walter(a)bytecraft.com> wrote in message >>> >>>>> All the Canadian patients who come to the US for necessary >>>>> health care have the costs paid for by the Canadian health >>>>> care system. That includes elective procedures. >>>> >>>>No, I don't think so. >>> >>> You don't think. >>> >>>>> The spending in Canada is about half per person of the >>>>> US health costs. >>>> >>>>Because it's rationed. >>> >>> That's a bald-faced lie. >>> >>> It's the US that rations health care. People die as a result. >>> >>> -- >>Prove it ray. > > Will you pay attention this time, rightard? > > The US ranks about 35th of nation for lie expectancy. > It's way down the list for infant mortality. > > 40,000,000+ people have no health insurance. > Medical expenses are the single biggest factor in personal > bankruptcies. > > > -- Thank you lefttard for your reply
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 18:33 "John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:mglab55g7uqk6uvbho6hssfrbm8m76hc4a(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:35:47 -0500, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> > wrote: > >> >><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:h936hj$lcl$3(a)news.albasani.net... >>> mikey4 wrote: >>>> <stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>> mikey4 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that >>>>>> the "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time. >>>>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>>>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do >>>>> NOTHING >>>>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>>>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>>>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>>>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>> My point here Stephanie is that this entire mess is a result of *both* >>>> parties screwing the pooch for *years and years and years*. The >>>> republicans win by a land slide and they *think* they have a mandate, >>>> they don't, people were sick and tired of what the dems were doing. The >>>> dems win by ands land slide and well, you finish the sentence. >>>> They have us right where they want us, squabbling about this party did >>>> that and the other party did this. >>>> News flash, BOTH PARTIES are doing US.!!! >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Did I ever say I was a democrat? There are some republicans I am OK with >>> too. Overall I think NONE of them are representing us. I guess I just >>> feel >>> Obama has my interests more at heart than GWB ever did. >>> >>> BTW GWB won by the smallest margin in history yet claimed a "mandate". >>> >>Not the first time around. Obama has only Obamas interest at heart. Wait >>and see. > > Yeah, he's figuring if he gets enough things done for the good of the > country it'll all pay off in sweet sweet public adulation. And that's > when the chicks start lining up! Yeah!! > > Please. Gee wish I'd have thought of that
From: mikey4 on 19 Sep 2009 18:35
"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:mplab5tfo2a70shou0keppqfqi0e9b2amm(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:22:41 -0500, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> > wrote: > >> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>news:4ab5180c$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>>><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... >>> >>>>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>>>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do >>>>> NOTHING >>>>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>>>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>>>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>>>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>>I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". >>>>the >>>>last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you >>>>have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell >>>>me..... >>> >>> That's the sort of ignorant thinking that gets rightards into trouble. >>> >>> There are many ways the wealthy get to pay lower taxes. Her's one: >>> Long-term capital gains and dividens aren't taxed as regular income. >>> It's a flat 15% even before you find any deductions. So, if you own a >>> ton of stock that pays you $250/yr in dividends then you pay no more >>> than 15% of that as income tax. If you are given $100,000,000 in >>> stock by the company and you sell it a year later, you pay 15%. >>> >>> -- >>Mean while dip sh.t, the liberal government you love so much just keeps >>right on spending. > > Not as much as the conservative government you love, though, yet > somehow we in this country get more out of what the liberals spend > money on. I have little to no love or most of the congress or senate. As for the amount of money being thrown at the problems that may or may not need it, we should know if there is a real payoff in a few years. |