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From: Miles Bader on 19 Sep 2009 23:08 "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl(a)gol.com> writes: >> I think you made an error there. You cited two different murder rates >> for England and Wales. Seeing as how you were comparing it to a US >> city, was it supposed to be London? > > Oops, right you are. 2.9 is for London. It might be interesting to compare figures for "similar" cities or areas of cities, if that's possible -- e.g., looking at rates for sections of cities with similar income levels or something. -Miles -- o The existentialist, not having a pillow, goes everywhere with the book by Sullivan, _I am going to spit on your graves_.
From: Ray Fischer on 20 Sep 2009 00:39 Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >THE MORE YOU MAKE THE GREATER PERCENTAGE OF YOUR INCOME THAT YOU HAVE TO >PAY. That's regressive taxation in anyone's book. As usual, graham is wrong on both counts. A "regressive" tax structure charges more for LOWER incomes. The very welathy can actually pay a LOWER tax rate because their income is not always in the form of salaries. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: Ray Fischer on 20 Sep 2009 00:42 Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >news:895ab5t3k8tn4fst71bvjge3fks38fiovo(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:36:03 +0200, Rol_Lei Nut >> <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Bill Graham wrote: >>>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >>> >>>Unfortunately for you, those are the countries where neighbours are >>>friendly and look out for each other.... >> >> Countries like, say, Scotland? >> >> "A United Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent >> country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to >> be assaulted than in America. >> >> England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent >> assaults while Northern Ireland recorded the fewest." (2005) >> >There are so many different possible reasons for statistics like the above, >that it is stupid to try to understand them here..... The rationalizations of the criminal gun nut. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: Ray Fischer on 20 Sep 2009 00:44 mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: > >"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message >news:d1tab5hf131605ho26snc94pnn779hibf2(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:28:54 -0500, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>news:4ab55678$0$1607$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:4ab51946$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>>>>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote: >>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so badly >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. >>>>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you? >>>>>>>>>> [Nonsense deleted...] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where >>>>>>>>>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any >>>>>>>>>differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>core. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If that's true then it must also be true of the Republican party >>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>> the number of Republicans who have been shown to be lying, >>>>>>>> philandering hypocrites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just like the lefttards >>>>>> >>>>>> Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance. >>>>>> mikey in <h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> >>>>>> -- >>>>>Snip away ray >>>> >>>> Run away, hypocrite. >>>> >>>> It's always so easy to argue against you rightards jut by throwing >>>> your own words back at you. >>>> >>>> -- >>>ok got it, which post are you referring to? or can't you post the entire >>>text here. >>> >> >> The message ID is h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org >> >> If your news reader can't get you to the article using that, try this: >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/browse_thread/thread/16c602542978b515/51ec3250dbeab29b?hl=en&q=#51ec3250dbeab29b > >Thank you John for posting the link, the only part that post that is me is >the header. mikey tries to deny hos own words. Nothing but a rightard coward. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: Ray Fischer on 20 Sep 2009 00:46
Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >"George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:C6DA89F8.34DBE%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> >> On 9/19/09 12:42 PM, in article 4ab5180c$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, >> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: >> >>> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>>> <stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net... >>> >>>>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving >>>>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING >>>>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just >>>>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had >>>>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there >>>>> with ya, but that isn't what happened. >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>> I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". >>>> the >>>> last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you >>>> have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell >>>> me..... >>> >>> That's the sort of ignorant thinking that gets rightards into trouble. >>> >>> There are many ways the wealthy get to pay lower taxes. Her's one: >>> Long-term capital gains and dividens aren't taxed as regular income. >>> It's a flat 15% even before you find any deductions. So, if you own a >>> ton of stock that pays you $250/yr in dividends then you pay no more >>> than 15% of that as income tax. If you are given $100,000,000 in >>> stock by the company and you sell it a year later, you pay 15%. > > >This is utter BS. It's all fact. > All of my income is, "long term capitol gains" and I pay >my taxes from the same tax tables that you do.....I am retired and living >off my 401K..... graham must be senile or he does his own taxes. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |