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From: Savageduck on 29 Sep 2009 19:42 On 2009-09-29 15:28:31 -0700, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> said: > > "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message > news:2009092915080580278-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> On 2009-09-29 10:09:13 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> >> said: >> >>> >>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>> news:fI-dnVrWwvvYp1_XnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> >>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>>> news:2009092908424593099-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>> >>> [ . . . ] >>>>> >>>>> My understanding was Colt's first rifles were .44 cap&ball revolver >>>>> actions based on the 1860 Army. Our old pals Horace Smith and Daniel >>>>> Wesson had produced a lever action repeating pistol, the "Volcanic >>>>> pistol". They failed as a business and the design was incorporated into >>>>> the Henry rifle and Winchester eventually ate them up. They went their >>>>> own way producing the first rimfire pistols in 1863. >>>> >>>> I thought a little earlier than that, but I could be wrong. >>> >>> No, I was right. Just Googled it and this source says S&W started >>> manufacturing their first revolver in 1856: >>> http://www.answers.com/topic/smith-wesson >>> >>> That's actually a bit earlier than I thought. I thought it was about >>> 1859. >>> But I was fairly sure that some Union officers were buying S&W Model 1s >>> as >>> personal weapons at the very beginning of the so-called Civil War (1861). >> >> Well I am relieved to find some common ground in this current polarized >> mess we are living in. >> Who ever said guns weren't fun? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Savageduck >> > I have a 30-40 Craig as well as several handguns and I try to shot as often > as I can. > Target shooting, for me at least, is relaxing, like fishing; a chance to > empty ones mind of the day to day BS. Is that the Americanized spelling of "Krag" as in Krag-Jorgensen? It is commonly mispronounced in the US as "Craig", correctly pronounced "Krag" to rhyme with "flag." It was our weapon for the Spanish-American War. When it was out performed by the Mauser it was replaced by the Springfield M1903, our Mauser design. The Krag had a great action, but an awkward magazine. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: mikey4 on 29 Sep 2009 20:10 "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009092916423151816-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2009-09-29 15:28:31 -0700, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> said: > >> >> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >> news:2009092915080580278-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>> On 2009-09-29 10:09:13 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> >>> said: >>> >>>> >>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>>> news:fI-dnVrWwvvYp1_XnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>> >>>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:2009092908424593099-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>>> >>>> [ . . . ] >>>>>> >>>>>> My understanding was Colt's first rifles were .44 cap&ball revolver >>>>>> actions based on the 1860 Army. Our old pals Horace Smith and Daniel >>>>>> Wesson had produced a lever action repeating pistol, the "Volcanic >>>>>> pistol". They failed as a business and the design was incorporated >>>>>> into >>>>>> the Henry rifle and Winchester eventually ate them up. They went >>>>>> their >>>>>> own way producing the first rimfire pistols in 1863. >>>>> >>>>> I thought a little earlier than that, but I could be wrong. >>>> >>>> No, I was right. Just Googled it and this source says S&W started >>>> manufacturing their first revolver in 1856: >>>> http://www.answers.com/topic/smith-wesson >>>> >>>> That's actually a bit earlier than I thought. I thought it was about >>>> 1859. >>>> But I was fairly sure that some Union officers were buying S&W Model 1s >>>> as >>>> personal weapons at the very beginning of the so-called Civil War >>>> (1861). >>> >>> Well I am relieved to find some common ground in this current polarized >>> mess we are living in. >>> Who ever said guns weren't fun? >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Savageduck >>> >> I have a 30-40 Craig as well as several handguns and I try to shot as >> often >> as I can. >> Target shooting, for me at least, is relaxing, like fishing; a chance to >> empty ones mind of the day to day BS. > > Is that the Americanized spelling of "Krag" as in Krag-Jorgensen? > It is commonly mispronounced in the US as "Craig", correctly pronounced > "Krag" to rhyme with "flag." > > It was our weapon for the Spanish-American War. When it was out performed > by the Mauser it was replaced by the Springfield M1903, our Mauser design. > The Krag had a great action, but an awkward magazine. > > -- That's Krag, I hit the spell check to soon. I haven't fired it in quite some time. I did kill several deer with it though when I lived in WA. Dead on at 100 yards with plenty of kill power. I had hoped to inherit my dads Ruger Blackhawk single action 44 magnum. He was the first one, in the town where he was a special deputy, to own the Blackhawk. I really enjoyed my trips to the local dump for a little target shooting. Anyway I found out the revolver went to a family member who sold it. Along with the revolver went a custom made and tooled gun belt with a holster that allowed the revolver to be drawn straight through the front. What a shame :(
From: Bill Graham on 29 Sep 2009 20:58 "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:h9tef91qgs(a)news6.newsguy.com... > tony cooper wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:44:17 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Be sure to write the first time you encounter a CHP officer with your >>> idea that you have an inherent right to carry a concealed weapon >>> without a permit. I'd be interested to see how that plays out. >>> >>> I have spent many happy hours arguing exactly that with California >>> Police officers......My wife's grandson-in-law happens to be one. In >>> many cases they agree with my position on the matter. >> >> This is the ChrisH School of Reasoning. If you know one person who >> shares your opinion, that means "everyone" agrees with you. > > I had a police officer explain matters to me this way: > > "If you shoot me when I come to enforce a gun ban, I won't hold it against > you." > > Many police disagree with some of the laws that they are required to > enforce, but they do their jobs anyway. > They shouldn't. "It is the responsibility, not the right, of good men to disobey bad laws." - Spencer Tracy, in "Judgment at Nuremberg."
From: Savageduck on 29 Sep 2009 21:59 On 2009-09-29 17:10:25 -0700, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> said: > > "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message > news:2009092916423151816-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> On 2009-09-29 15:28:31 -0700, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> said: >> >>> >>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>> news:2009092915080580278-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>>> On 2009-09-29 10:09:13 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> >>>> said: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:fI-dnVrWwvvYp1_XnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:2009092908424593099-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>>>> >>>>> [ . . . ] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My understanding was Colt's first rifles were .44 cap&ball revolver >>>>>>> actions based on the 1860 Army. Our old pals Horace Smith and Daniel >>>>>>> Wesson had produced a lever action repeating pistol, the "Volcanic >>>>>>> pistol". They failed as a business and the design was incorporated >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> the Henry rifle and Winchester eventually ate them up. They went >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> own way producing the first rimfire pistols in 1863. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought a little earlier than that, but I could be wrong. >>>>> >>>>> No, I was right. Just Googled it and this source says S&W started >>>>> manufacturing their first revolver in 1856: >>>>> http://www.answers.com/topic/smith-wesson >>>>> >>>>> That's actually a bit earlier than I thought. I thought it was about >>>>> 1859. >>>>> But I was fairly sure that some Union officers were buying S&W Model 1s >>>>> as >>>>> personal weapons at the very beginning of the so-called Civil War >>>>> (1861). >>>> >>>> Well I am relieved to find some common ground in this current polarized >>>> mess we are living in. >>>> Who ever said guns weren't fun? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Savageduck >>>> >>> I have a 30-40 Craig as well as several handguns and I try to shot as >>> often >>> as I can. >>> Target shooting, for me at least, is relaxing, like fishing; a chance to >>> empty ones mind of the day to day BS. >> >> Is that the Americanized spelling of "Krag" as in Krag-Jorgensen? >> It is commonly mispronounced in the US as "Craig", correctly pronounced >> "Krag" to rhyme with "flag." >> >> It was our weapon for the Spanish-American War. When it was out performed >> by the Mauser it was replaced by the Springfield M1903, our Mauser design. >> The Krag had a great action, but an awkward magazine. >> >> -- > That's Krag, I hit the spell check to soon. > I haven't fired it in quite some time. I did kill several deer with it > though when I lived in WA. > Dead on at 100 yards with plenty of kill power. > I had hoped to inherit my dads Ruger Blackhawk single action 44 magnum. He > was the first one, in the town where he was a special deputy, to own the > Blackhawk. I really enjoyed my trips to the local dump for a little target > shooting. Anyway I found out the revolver went to a family member who sold > it. Along with the revolver went a custom made and tooled gun belt with a > holster that allowed the revolver to be drawn straight through the front. > What a shame :( THAT! Is worthy of a family vendetta! What were they thinking?? The Super Blackhawk is a beautiful piece and should have been considered a valuable piece of family heritage. Agreed. What a shame. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Neil Harrington on 29 Sep 2009 22:01
"Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009092915080580278-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2009-09-29 10:09:13 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> > said: > >> >> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >> news:fI-dnVrWwvvYp1_XnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> >>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>> news:2009092908424593099-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> >> [ . . . ] >>>> >>>> My understanding was Colt's first rifles were .44 cap&ball revolver >>>> actions based on the 1860 Army. Our old pals Horace Smith and Daniel >>>> Wesson had produced a lever action repeating pistol, the "Volcanic >>>> pistol". They failed as a business and the design was incorporated into >>>> the Henry rifle and Winchester eventually ate them up. They went their >>>> own way producing the first rimfire pistols in 1863. >>> >>> I thought a little earlier than that, but I could be wrong. >> >> No, I was right. Just Googled it and this source says S&W started >> manufacturing their first revolver in 1856: >> http://www.answers.com/topic/smith-wesson >> >> That's actually a bit earlier than I thought. I thought it was about >> 1859. >> But I was fairly sure that some Union officers were buying S&W Model 1s >> as >> personal weapons at the very beginning of the so-called Civil War (1861). > > Well I am relieved to find some common ground in this current polarized > mess we are living in. > Who ever said guns weren't fun? <chuckle> No argument there. |