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From: Savageduck on 30 Sep 2009 03:56 On 2009-09-30 00:25:32 -0700, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > In message <6c-dnXas5sKjMF_XnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Bill Graham > <weg9(a)comcast.net> writes >> >> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:h9tef91qgs@n >> ews6.newsguy.com... >>> tony cooper wrote: >>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:44:17 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Be sure to write the first time you encounter a CHP officer with your >>>>> idea that you have an inherent right to carry a concealed weapon >>>>> without a permit. I'd be interested to see how that plays out. >>>>> >>>>> I have spent many happy hours arguing exactly that with California >>>>> Police officers......My wife's grandson-in-law happens to be one. In >>>>> many cases they agree with my position on the matter. >>>> >>>> This is the ChrisH School of Reasoning. If you know one person who >>>> shares your opinion, that means "everyone" agrees with you. >>> >>> I had a police officer explain matters to me this way: >>> >>> "If you shoot me when I come to enforce a gun ban, I won't hold it against >>> you." >>> >>> Many police disagree with some of the laws that they are required to >>> enforce, but they do their jobs anyway. >>> >> They shouldn't. "It is the responsibility, not the right, of good men >> to disobey bad laws." - Spencer Tracy, in "Judgment at Nuremberg." > > So how come the US military is still using torture and the excuse is > they were just following orders? That should work for Bill, the "Nuremberg defense." -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Chris H on 30 Sep 2009 04:06 In message <2009093000560911967-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >On 2009-09-30 00:25:32 -0700, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > >> In message <6c-dnXas5sKjMF_XnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Bill Graham >> <weg9(a)comcast.net> writes >>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:h9tef91qgs@n >>> ews6.newsguy.com... >>>> tony cooper wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:44:17 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Be sure to write the first time you encounter a CHP officer with >>>>>>your >>>>>> idea that you have an inherent right to carry a concealed weapon >>>>>> without a permit. I'd be interested to see how that plays out. >>>>>> I have spent many happy hours arguing exactly that with >>>>>>California >>>>>> Police officers......My wife's grandson-in-law happens to be one. In >>>>>> many cases they agree with my position on the matter. >>>>> This is the ChrisH School of Reasoning. If you know one person >>>>>who >>>>> shares your opinion, that means "everyone" agrees with you. >>>> I had a police officer explain matters to me this way: >>>> "If you shoot me when I come to enforce a gun ban, I won't hold it >>>>against >>>> you." >>>> Many police disagree with some of the laws that they are required >>>>to >>>> enforce, but they do their jobs anyway. >>>> >>> They shouldn't. "It is the responsibility, not the right, of good >>>men >>> to disobey bad laws." - Spencer Tracy, in "Judgment at Nuremberg." >> So how come the US military is still using torture and the excuse is >> they were just following orders? > >That should work for Bill, the "Nuremberg defense." He can't use that defence it is a [National] SOCIALIST defence.... :-) -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Savageduck on 30 Sep 2009 13:38 On 2009-09-30 09:50:07 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> said: > > "Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message > news:2SeryiCsfwwKFAFF(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk... >> In message <6c-dnXas5sKjMF_XnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Bill Graham >> <weg9(a)comcast.net> writes >>> >>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:h9tef91qgs@n >>> ews6.newsguy.com... >>>> tony cooper wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:44:17 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Be sure to write the first time you encounter a CHP officer with your >>>>>> idea that you have an inherent right to carry a concealed weapon >>>>>> without a permit. I'd be interested to see how that plays out. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have spent many happy hours arguing exactly that with California >>>>>> Police officers......My wife's grandson-in-law happens to be one. In >>>>>> many cases they agree with my position on the matter. >>>>> >>>>> This is the ChrisH School of Reasoning. If you know one person who >>>>> shares your opinion, that means "everyone" agrees with you. >>>> >>>> I had a police officer explain matters to me this way: >>>> >>>> "If you shoot me when I come to enforce a gun ban, I won't hold it >>>> against >>>> you." >>>> >>>> Many police disagree with some of the laws that they are required to >>>> enforce, but they do their jobs anyway. >>>> >>> They shouldn't. "It is the responsibility, not the right, of good men >>> to disobey bad laws." - Spencer Tracy, in "Judgment at Nuremberg." >> >> So how come the US military is still using torture and the excuse is >> they were just following orders? > > No discussion of U.S. military "torture" can be complete without a reading > of Ann Coulter's column on the subject, which puts it somewhat in > perspective: I was always understood, that a dinner date with Anne Coulter was an accurate description of torture, or cruel and unusual punishment. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Twibil on 30 Sep 2009 13:48 On Sep 30, 10:38 am, Savageduck <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > > > I was always understood, that a dinner date with Anne Coulter was an > accurate description of torture, or cruel and unusual punishment. Dunno. I always thought that it would be fun to force her to share a hearty - and prolonged- repast with Keith Olberman, and record the results for posterity.
From: tony cooper on 30 Sep 2009 19:05
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:17:40 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >and I have >debriefed people in the middle east. Translation: I have shared a pint with some low-level returnees from the Middle East. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |