From: Bart Goddard on
jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote in news:hkjoki21g80(a)news1.newsguy.com:

>> If there's a compelling reason for the US to switch to
>> metric, I have yet to hear it.
>
> If you have a business which wants to sell widgets to
> people in countries who use metric, you should manufacture
> your products using screws and bolts and things which
> are metric.
>

Hypothetically. But note two things: The US doesn't sell
widgets, it buys widgets. So your "if-then" is vacuously
true. Second, other countries sell stuff to the US
all the time with parts that don't fit our official
measuring system. Hmmm..... There's still a gap
in your philosophy.

B.

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From: Bart Goddard on
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in
news:hkjp4s1ar1(a)news2.newsguy.com:

>> If there's a compelling reason for the US to switch to
>> metric, I have yet to hear it.
>
> At this point, if it meant an end to inane discussions such at this
> one it would be worthwhile.
>

Right. How could _anyone_ <eyeroll> POSSIBLY <theatrical
sigh> disagree with MY point of view. <stomp off, slam the
door.>

It's just so darn frustrating when you realize you can't
justify something that should "obviously" be justifiable.

B.

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From: Bart Goddard on
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in news:hkjp4u2ar1
@news2.newsguy.com:

>>> You do understand, do you not, that they are using "decimation" for
>>> its humorous effect. Decimation, since you seem unfamiliar with it
>>
>> Oh sweet Jesus. I swear snails can fly over some people's heads.
>
> Hey, you're the one trying to tell us that it's the correct term for
> something else rather than humorous application of an incorrect term.
>

No, spacebrain, my original use of the term was in reference
to the British press' humourous use when they were re-doing
their money. Your comment was the equivalent of, "Ya know,
crows don't always fly in a straight line." Thanks for pointing
out the obvious. Now go be quiet.

B.

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From: Paul Ciszek on

In article <3q1nm554bvd9j4iidr32paag2e6hi425er(a)4ax.com>,
Matt <30days(a)net.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:18:26 +0000 (UTC), Paul Ciszek wrote:
>
>>
>>In article <Xns9D15464AACB40goddardbenetscapenet(a)74.209.136.93>,
>>Bart Goddard <goddardbe(a)netscape.net> wrote:
>>>nospam(a)nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote in
>>>news:hke1bi$n19$6(a)reader2.panix.com:
>>>
>>>> What is the density of water in pounds per cubic foot?
>>>
>>>As usual, the decimaphile offers us a calculation that
>>>1. is already known and 2. nobody ever does. Against
>>
>>If you mean non-technical people, they get through most of their
>>lives without doing any calculations at all. Engineers, on the
>>other hand, have to deal with the density of water quite a bit. Things
>>get submerged in it, containers are built empty and later filled
>>with it, it can end up standing on the roofs of buildings if you
>>didn't design them right, etc.
>
>I think you ascribe too much apathy about units of measure to
>non-technical people. They outnumber techies by a large factor.
>
>And they have need to calculate for various reasons: cost per unit
>weight, fuel per unit distance, cost per unit of household energy,
>etc.

"That's MATH. I was told there would be no math!"

In the popular world view, math is considered slightly less useful
than latin.

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In article <03f63d49-497a-41a9-a62b-999716ec03d7(a)t21g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>,
Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Feb 5, 2:34�pm, nos...(a)nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
>
>> >> I had an E&M textbook like that once...everything was fine until one of
>> >> the homework problems ended with having to find the dimensions of a
>> >> solenoid needed to satisfy some condition. �I just couldn't turn the
>> >> ESU's or whatever back into meters and amps.
>>
>> >And did you then realise just how silly SI is for EM calculations?
>>
>> Um, no. �All of my earlier courses delt with electricity and magnetism
>> in SI units and everything made sense.
>
>SI units make sense? I myself never really understood EM until I saw
>the formulae presented in proper units (see Section IIX of my essay).
>
>>�Furthermore, you buy components
>> with values measured in microfarads or millihenries, not dimensionless
>> ESU values or whatever it was that textbook used.
>
>Yeah, but you don't calculate in them, do you?

Sure do. A resistance measured in ohms multiplied by a capacitance
measured in Farads gives you an RC time constant in seconds. For
the rail gun afficianados, the energy stored in a capacitor measured
in Joules is one half the capacitance in Farads times the square of
the voltage measured in Volts. Yes, the rail-gun fans I know do
talk about energy in Joules. I have even used spot-welders where
the intensity of the pulse was given in Joules.

>They're only used by
>convention (Section VII), which actually discredits metric.

Just because you personally think you have discredited metric
doesn't mean that metric is in fact discredited. How many legs
does a dog have if you call its tail a leg?

>>�I don't even know the
>> names of any English/Imperial units for voltage, electrical charge,
>> magnetic field strength, capacitance, or inductance.
>
>There aren't any separate ones.

Bingo! The English system has no proper units for doing any modern
science.

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