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From: Skitt on 21 Feb 2010 16:23 Andrew Usher wrote: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >>>>>> And trying to come up with a new calendar fixating on >>>>>> Christmas is about as logical as fixating on Waitangi >>>>>> Day. >> >>>>> This is just West-bashing. >> >>>> Don't be silly: New Zealand is part of the cultural west. >> >>> But what the day commemorates is not. >> >> You should have checked to see what it actually does >> commemorate before posting such nonsense. > > As far as I know, it's used today as just another excuse for white > guilt. It hasn't been continuously observed since the event itself, > like out July 4 has been. > > And even if I'm wrong, it's no more important than July 4, and I don't > base my calendar around that, either. I chose the Christian holidays > because they are international, and fitting other US days is a bonus. July 4th is my (Latvian) Name's Day, so I always celebrate it in some way. http://www.behindthename.com/namedays/lists/lat.php (My original first name is the middle one listed there.) -- Skitt (AmE)
From: António Marques on 21 Feb 2010 16:25 On Feb 21, 1:09 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Mike Barnes wrote: > > Adam Funk <a24...(a)ducksburg.com>: > > >From man 5 crontab: > > > > When specifying day of week, both day 0 and day 7 will be > > > considered Sunday. BSD and AT&T seem to disagree about this. > > > But they presumably agree that day one is Monday. > > But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0 > = Sunday. Ahem. In low level, pointer oriented languages such as C and its family. And those who chose to imitate it.
From: Andrew Usher on 21 Feb 2010 16:27 Mike Dworetsky wrote: > > I agree, but how does that mean we must celebrate Easter at the full > > moon? (which the Orthodox don't, anyway) > > > Come on, the answer to a question about why a particular religious festival > must be celebrated on a day fixed by the phases of the Moon is, "Because". > So unless you plan to enforce an order to the Catholic Church to abandon a > practice that is central to their rituals and celebrations, you are on a > hiding to nothing. The Catholic Church has stated, I believe more than once (it's linked to somewhere in this thread) that fixing Easter to a particular week would be acceptable. > Possibly you could have a "civil" calendar and leave the Gregorian calendar > for "ritual" use only, the way the Orthodox calendar is used, but the point > about the way in which the whole world adopted the Gregorian calendar for > civil purposes, even if they were Buddhists or Jews or Shinto or Tao or > Atheist, is that it led to standardization and a common agreement about > dates for civil and international matters. Yes, and that is why I propose no change in actual day numbering, just in Christmas and Easter and perhaps other holidays and scheduled dates, and finally in a standard week numbering starting in August. Andrew Usher
From: António Marques on 21 Feb 2010 16:28 On Feb 19, 10:09 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:38:08 +0000, António Marques > <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote in > <news:hlmpb4$c42$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > > [...] > > > Chocolate bunnies and eggs, you can put them everywhere > > you like, but that's not Easter. > > For me, growing up, that was exactly Easter. It was a minor > holiday, along with Thanksgiving and Hallowe'en; the major > holiday was Christmas. Well, those holidays aren't organised by people who are still growing up.
From: Brian M. Scott on 21 Feb 2010 16:49
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:28:27 -0800 (PST), Ant�nio Marques <entonio(a)gmail.com> wrote in <news:3f5cc21c-5e58-47e9-8715-9de5097afc15(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > On Feb 19, 10:09�pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:38:08 +0000, Ant�nio Marques >> <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote in >> <news:hlmpb4$c42$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> [...] >>> Chocolate bunnies and eggs, you can put them everywhere >>> you like, but that's �not Easter. >> For me, growing up, that was exactly Easter. �It was a minor >> holiday, along with Thanksgiving and Hallowe'en; the major >> holiday was Christmas. > Well, those holidays aren't organised by people who are > still growing up. From which you can safely infer that my experience reflects my parents' view of the matter. Brian |