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From: Androcles on 20 Feb 2010 03:35 "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198(a)pants.btinternet.com> wrote in message news:jc6dnUEvCLDSC-LWnZ2dnUVZ8tOdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Yusuf B Gursey wrote: >> On Feb 19, 4:34 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...(a)gOUTmail.com> wrote: >>> John Atkinson wrote: >>>> Halmyre wrote: >>>>> On 19 Feb, 04:58, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Andrew Usher" <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> >>>>>> news:65e2a2e7-1aef-4872-97a7-360fa6a10a6a(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>>>>> Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the >>>>>>> calendar, and attempting in passing to create a more perfect >>>>>>> Church calendar, I say the following: 1. That Christmas day >>>>>>> should be fixed to a Sunday, and this should be the Sunday >>>>>>> between Dec. 21 and 27, and that in all civilised countries the >>>>>>> Monday should be considered a holiday, or the Saturday if not >>>>>>> normally. 2. That similarly Easter day should be fixed to the >>>>>>> Sunday which is 15 weeks following Christmas. 3. That the leap >>>>>>> year rule be changed to have a leap year occur every fourth >>>>>>> save that it be delayed when the leap year would start on a >>>>>>> Thursday, and that this gives 7 leap years in every 29, which >>>>>>> is near enough. 4. That the perpetual calendar can be made, by >>>>>>> considering the first day of the year of weeks to occur on the >>>>>>> Sunday after the Assumption, and if this is the first possible >>>>>>> calendar day, it is called week 1, and otherwise week 2, and >>>>>>> every year runs through week 53. And this calendar ensures that >>>>>>> everything can be fixed to a day of a certain week, in >>>>>>> particular the American Thanksgiving must be made 31 days >>>>>>> before Christmas. 6. This is surely the best possible >>>>>>> arrangement that can be made, without disturbing the cycle of >>>>>>> weeks or that of calendar days inherited from the Romans. >>>>>>> Andrew Usher >>>>>> The calendar has several sources, not just the Rome and the onewe >>>>>> habe in fine as it is >>>>> I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it. >>> >>>> But, the whole point of Easter is that it has a full moon! You might >>>> as well scrap the whole thing otherwise. Or are you suggesting that >>>> we only take holidays at Easter every four years or so, when your >>>> �settled� date just happens to correspond with the right lunar >>>> phase? >>> >>> My Book of Common Prayer makes things easy by pointing out that "the >>> moon referred to in the definition of Easter Day is not the actual >>> moon of the heavens, but the Calendar Moon, or Moon of the Lunar >>> Cycle, which is counted as full on its fourteenth day, reckoned from >>> the day of the Calendar New Moon inclusive." Also, in a Bissextile >>> Year "the number of Sundays after Epiphany will be the same, as if >>> Easter Day had fallen one day later than it really does." >> >> the Orthodox (Eastern) churches have a slightly different system. >> dunno exactly what it is. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter >> >> Easter > > Orthodox Easter and other events are based on the Julian Calendar (one > year = 365.25 days), while Catholic and Protestant practice follows the > Gregorian calendar (one year = 365.2425 days plus the 1582 dropping of 10 > days). Over several centuries, the date of the spring equinox has drifted > away from March 21 in the Orthodox calendar. > > The two religious systems have different methods for calculating Easter > within their own calendars. > > Do a Google search for "calendar FAQ". > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsD2Nku6Zqo Over two millennia, the date of the spring equinox has drifted by a month.
From: Androcles on 20 Feb 2010 03:49 "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott(a)csuohio.edu> wrote in message news:1s2uq5glt3lgu$.1m746rj1287gz$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:12:09 -0800 (PST), Andrew Usher > <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote in > <news:acc184f6-20cf-4ecf-8065-db72600e9c83(a)15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> > in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > > [...] > >> And the first day of the week is Sunday, not Monday - that >> is an incontrovertible fact. > > Don't be ridiculous: it's merely a convention. For many of > us Monday is unquestionably the first day of the week. > > [...] > > Brian Which day is Mittwoch and which god is it holy to? http://www.woxikon.com/wort/mittwoch.php
From: Androcles on 20 Feb 2010 04:14 "R H Draney" <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message news:hlo79b01ml(a)drn.newsguy.com... > Androcles filted: >> >> >>"R H Draney" <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message >>news:hlni3r01mb3(a)drn.newsguy.com... >>> Robert Bannister filted: >>>> >>>>Androcles wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The USA doesn't have a football schedule. The rest of the world plays >>>>> football, the USA calls that soccer and then plays it's own version of >>>>> parochial handball. >>> >>> One expects such a reaction from someone who inserts an apostrophe into >>> possessive "its".... >> >>Oops... I forgot that is one possessive word that doesn't have an >>apostophe. >>My's mistake. >>What is "....", four thirds of an ellipsis ? > > An ellipsis and a full stop.... One expects such a reaction from one who concatenates a period with an ellipsis. I thought it might have been four quarter stops resulting from brake failure or break failure. > >>>>'Scuse me, what's rubbish about the rest of world playing that scoreless >>>>drama with a round ball? Footballs may be different sizes and weights >>>>and even the shape varies a bit, but they are basically ovoid. The other >>>>game is for kids in the street. >>> >>> *Poor* kids...with foreign accents...and brown skin....r >>> >>> >>I don't know that word, what does "....r" mean? > > An ellipsis and a full stop and the world's shortest meaningful .sig....r > I don't know that word, what does ".sig." mean, Mr. ...r?
From: Prai Jei on 20 Feb 2010 07:15 Andrew Usher set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time continuum: > 3. That the leap year rule be changed to have a leap year occur every > fourth save that it be delayed when the leap year would start on a > Thursday, and that this gives 7 leap years in every 29, which is near > enough. 7/29 amounts to 0.2413 of an extra day on average. We're looking for 0.2422. The Gregorian calendar says 97/400 (0.2425) which is more accurate, the Revised Julian Calendar says 218/900 (0.24222 recurring) [1] which is more accurate again. [1] The RJC says that century years are not leap years unless they leave a remainder of 2 or 6 when divided by 9. Thus in a 4*225 = 900-year cycle seven leap-years are omitted. The RJC is currently in sync with the Gregorian, and will not diverge therefrom until 2800. -- ξ:) Proud to be curly Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply
From: jmfbahciv on 20 Feb 2010 08:03
Andrew Usher wrote: > On Feb 19, 6:07 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > >>> 6. This is surely the best possible arrangement that can be made, >>> without disturbing the cycle of weeks or that of calendar days >>> inherited from the Romans. >> If you are going to try to make it sensible, then please give us 13 >> four-week months with one or two specially named days at the end of the >> year to even it out. The first day of each month should be a Monday. > > Once again, I said that I excluded having days outside the week. And > the first day of the week is Sunday, not Monday - that is an > incontrovertible fact. > > Having 13 months, in addition, would screw up a bunch of things ; in > particular, 13 can't be divided. > But you hate decimal! /BAH |