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From: PaulJK on 23 Feb 2010 02:19 Brian M. Scott wrote: > R H Draney wrote: > > [...] > >> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >> Daylight Saving Time.... > >> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r > > I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all > year round. I would prefer if every 24 hour day was made longer by one hour, i.e. 25 hours long. I know it would cause some strife for many people but I for one and people like me wouldn't have to suffer the pain of advancing my slow circadian rhythm clock by an hour every morning. pjk
From: PaulJK on 23 Feb 2010 02:49 Brian M. Scott wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:32:03 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" > <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in > <news:ad442cf6-ce22-4ffe-b05b-786b865fb3fc(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> > in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >> On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott" >> <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > > [...] > >>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >>> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >>> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >>> benefit of as much daylight as possible. > >> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school >> in the dark. But how is DST helping kids not to go to school in the dark? We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer because in summer it's bright earlier. In summer kids go to school an hour earlier but in winter they go to school at the time they always used to go. pjk > I hadn't noticed that DST would make much difference to that > in many of the places that I've lived. > > Brian
From: Mike Barnes on 23 Feb 2010 02:00 Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com>: >'One' is not, grammatically, a pronoun. It is a nominalised adjective >(the number one) that is used in place of a pronoun. That's a matter of perception rather than fact. Most people's perception is different from yours, I suspect. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England
From: Mike Barnes on 23 Feb 2010 03:33 Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com>: >Robert Bannister wrote: > >> > Once again, I said that I excluded having days outside the week. And >> > the first day of the week is Sunday, not Monday - that is an >> > incontrovertible fact. >> >> Oh dear. I had thought that you weren't a crank up till now. > >Right. So now believing what has been held for over two millennia >makes one a crank. Wrong. It's not believing that the first day of the week is a Sunday that makes you a crank. What makes you a crank is writing that it's an incontrovertible fact. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England
From: Brian M. Scott on 23 Feb 2010 05:01
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:49:44 +1300, PaulJK <paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in <news:hm015d$bca$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:32:03 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >> <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in >> <news:ad442cf6-ce22-4ffe-b05b-786b865fb3fc(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> >> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >>> On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott" >>> <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> [...] >>>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >>>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >>>> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >>>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >>>> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >>>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >>>> benefit of as much daylight as possible. >>> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school >>> in the dark. > But how is DST helping kids not to go to school in the dark? It isn't. Peter's saying that we go off DST in the winter so that kids don't have to go to school in the dark. > We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer > because in summer it's bright earlier. Actually, I believe that the purpose was to have a longer period of daylight in the evenings. > In summer kids go to school an hour earlier but in winter > they go to school at the time they always used to go. In summer kids traditionally don't go to school at all in the U.S. Once upon a time many of them worked on the farm. Brian |