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From: António Marques on 23 Feb 2010 10:22 Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 15:01): > On Feb 23, 7:26 am, António Marques<antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: >> Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 11:17): >> >>> speaking of Eastern Churches, Easter is more important in Eastern >>> Churches. significantly, modern Turkish borrows "Easter" from Greek >>> (Paskalya) and "Christmass" from French (Noel). >> >> What you certainly mean is that the Middle East isn't as dechristianised as >> the US. >> >>> also Monophysite Churches (Armenian Orthodox, Jacobite Syrian, Coptic) >>> reject Dec. 25 as the date of Christmass. >> >> It's miaphysite! > > no, it's Monophysite (Mono, from one, Christ having only a divine > nature). No, it's miaphysite! (Mia, united) Christ having only a divine nature (monophysitism) is a heresy to all of Latins, Greeks, Armenians, Jacobites, Copts and Assyrians. >> Again, the date of Christmas isn't religiously significant, other than being >> at that time of the year. The fact that different churches use different >> dates doesn't mean they are in disagreement (as your 'reject' implies), any > > IIRC they considered Dec. 25 as having pagan implications. Only the Armenians use a different date, does that mean that the Copts, who they are in communion with, are under pagan influence? Either way, it's not a religiously signfiicant matter, just a convention. >> more than having different feast days for the same saint. >> The only religiously significant dates are those of the moveabe cycle. Over >> which there isn't much disagreement other than what calendar to use. >
From: Trond Engen on 23 Feb 2010 10:29 Peter T. Daniels skrev: > On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister >> <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote in >> <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >>> Brian M. Scott wrote: >>> >>>> R H Draney wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>>> Daylight Saving Time.... >>>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >>>> >>>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >>>> year round. >>> >>> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you >>> change your mind. >> >> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >> benefit of as much daylight as possible. > > The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school in the dark. Huh? That would give them two months leave each winter. -- Trond Engen
From: jimp on 23 Feb 2010 10:43 Chuck Riggs <chriggs(a)eircom.net> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:05:52 -0000, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Peter Moylan wrote: >>>> Andrew Usher wrote: >>>> >>>> > I chose the Christian holidays because they are international, >>>> >>>> ??? >>> >>> They're more so than any other holidays, are they not? >>> >>> Andrew Usher >> >>Nope, New Years is celebrated by almost all countries and cultures. > > Except for the most populous country in the world, along with a few > others, you're probably right, assuming we're talking about the same > date for the celebration. New Years as defined by the local culture; all holidays are defined by the local culture. You do realize Christmas is celebrated on January 7 in some cultures? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: jimp on 23 Feb 2010 10:44 In sci.physics Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > >> >> > I chose the Christian holidays because they are international, >> >> >> >> ??? >> > >> > They're more so than any other holidays, are they not? >> >> I suspect that you could find people celebrating Pesach, Purim, Rosh >> Hashanah, and Yom Kippur in as many countries as any four Christian >> holidays. > > Well, yes, but not _more people_. > > Andrew Usher With roughly 1.3 billion Chinese alone, New Years is celebrated by a LOT more people. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 23 Feb 2010 10:49
Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> writes: > Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > >> >> > I chose the Christian holidays because they are international, >> >> >> >> ??? >> > >> > They're more so than any other holidays, are they not? >> >> I suspect that you could find people celebrating Pesach, Purim, Rosh >> Hashanah, and Yom Kippur in as many countries as any four Christian >> holidays. > > Well, yes, but not _more people_. Is that how you construe "more international"? By that measure, Gandhi's birthday or the PRC's National Day are far more international than any of the Jewish holidays (and, probably, many of the Christian ones), even though they're celebrated in far few countries. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |In the beginning, there were no 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |reasons, there were only causes. Palo Alto, CA 94304 | Daniel Dennet kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ |