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From: Peter Moylan on 23 Feb 2010 05:13 António Marques wrote: > Brian M. Scott wrote (22-02-2010 21:33): >> R H Draney wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with Daylight Saving >>> Time.... >> >>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply for more of >>> the year than "Standard" time....r >> >> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all year round. > > Yeah, what sense does it make to save daylight only during half of the > year. While we're at it, can't we save some night-time too? I'm not getting enough sleep. -- Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page.
From: Yusuf B Gursey on 23 Feb 2010 06:17 On Feb 22, 11:27 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > On Feb 22, 7:49 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > > > The Catholic Church has stated, I believe more than once (it's linked > > > > to somewhere in this thread) that fixing Easter to a particular week > > > > would be acceptable. > > > > "The Catholic Church" (which refers to no specific organization) > > > hasn't spoken for all of Christendom for nearly half a millennium. > > > 'The Catholic Church' or simply 'The Church' refers to exactly one > > organisation. It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Also, it's been > > longer than half a millennium if one includes the East. > > One doesn't "include the East." One has to wonder what knowledge you > have of the Eastern churches. > > Are you by any chance one of those crackpots who want the Mass > peformed in Latin, who think Jesus decreed that clergy be celibate, > and the congeries of heterodox beliefs that go along with those two? > speaking of Eastern Churches, Easter is more important in Eastern Churches. significantly, modern Turkish borrows "Easter" from Greek (Paskalya) and "Christmass" from French (Noel). also Monophysite Churches (Armenian Orthodox, Jacobite Syrian, Coptic) reject Dec. 25 as the date of Christmass. > > > > > (It > > > took almost 200 years to get their newfangled calendar accepted just > > > throughout Western Europe, and it took the Russian Revolution to get > > > it used across the East.) > > > Nowadays, though, globalisation would be much faster.
From: Cheryl on 23 Feb 2010 06:23 Andrew Usher wrote: > Peter Moylan wrote: >> Andrew Usher wrote: >> >>> And I moved the start of the week numbering to August from Nov. 1 so >>> that the academic year and the US football season would be on the >>> fixed schedule, and I think there can be no objection to that. >> Aha. Now I understand an aspect of your proposal that hadn't been clear >> to me. You're proposing different calendars for different countries, >> right? An interesting idea. > > I wasn't actually thinking that way. Doesn't everyone start the > academic year in the fall, between late August and early October? I > guess you don't down there; well, I'd have no problem with you using a > different week numbering if necessary, but it would probably be best > to just extend mine later than August, and it keeps the perfect link > with the Church calendar as long as you end before All Saints'. > > In fact that is nothing more than using my original idea of using Nov. > 1 as the start. > >> While you're at it, though, why not have the academic year line up with >> the calendar year, the way we do it here? Making an academic year >> straddle two calendar years sounds just plain silly. > > Presumably this is only done in the Southern Hemisphere. > Well, no. Most places I'm familiar with have the academic year run from, say, September 2009 to June 2010, thus straddling two academic years. That's just an example, I know perfectly well that there are lots of other starting and ending dates, even in the northern hemisphere, and even have to deal with stuff that has to be reported by calendar year but involves people from at least two groups using two different academic years. Three, sometimes, and four including people who aren't primarily working the academic year. -- Cheryl
From: J. Clarke on 23 Feb 2010 06:19 On 2/22/2010 11:32 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott"<b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister >> <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote in >> <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >>> Brian M. Scott wrote: >>>> R H Draney wrote: >>>> [...] >>>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>>> Daylight Saving Time.... >>>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >>>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >>>> year round. >>> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you >>> change your mind. >> >> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >> benefit of as much daylight as possible. > > The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school in the dark. Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered busing has most kids riding the bus to school anyway, so what difference does it make?
From: J. Clarke on 23 Feb 2010 06:29
On 2/23/2010 2:19 AM, PaulJK wrote: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >> R H Draney wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>> Daylight Saving Time.... >> >>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >> >> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >> year round. > > I would prefer if every 24 hour day was made longer by one > hour, i.e. 25 hours long. I know it would cause some strife > for many people but I for one and people like me wouldn't have > to suffer the pain of advancing my slow circadian rhythm clock > by an hour every morning. I thought I was the only Martian around. Glad to meet another. |