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From: PaulJK on 28 Feb 2010 03:28 Robert Bannister wrote: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >> On 23 Feb 2010 17:41:22 -0800, R H Draney >> <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote in >> <news:hm204201q19(a)drn.newsguy.com> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >>> Robert Bannister filted: >> >>>> The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I >>>> get very ratty when politicians force me to get up in >>>> the dark more often than need be, whereas I think >>>> dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside. >> >>> Quite right...I had breakfast yesterday at noon, and >>> dinner at midnight....r >> >> That sounds about right, though my dinner might well be >> later than that. > > This reminds me of difficulties I had in reading some Russian novels: > "breakfast" was 2-4 pm, supper at midnight and dinner in the early hours > of the morning. Do all the Russian novel characters you know lead life of Goncharov's Oblomov? :-) pjk
From: PaulJK on 28 Feb 2010 03:33 Brian M. Scott wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:30:39 +1300, PaulJK > <paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in > <news:hmd328$27q$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >> Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > [...] > >>> What does Korsakov indicate? > >> To me, it doesn't immediately indicate anything obvious. > > It's from <корсак> 'steppe fox'. Thanks, I didn't know that. Neither did my pocket Russian dictionary. pjk > > [...] > > Brian
From: PaulJK on 28 Feb 2010 03:39 Brian M. Scott wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:15:15 +1300, PaulJK > <paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in > <news:hmd4vq$9nr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >> Roland Hutchinson wrote: > >>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:21:36 -0800, Mensanator wrote: > >>>> On Feb 26, 12:33 pm, Roland Hutchinson <my.spamt...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:00:40 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: >>>>>> Adam Funk wrote: >>>>>>> On 2010-02-24, Bob Myers wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Andrew Usher wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so >>>>>>>>> obviously the Right Way that I can't imagine why >>>>>>>>> anyone would do it the other way. > >>>>>>>> Oh, absolutely. Why, I see people in the stores >>>>>>>> every day, counting out their money or the number >>>>>>>> of items they're going to purchase, and saying to >>>>>>>> themselves "Zero, one, two..." > >>>>>>> The initialized state of my shopping basket contains >>>>>>> 0 items. Each item I put in increments it. If I >>>>>>> initialized at 1, my shopping would crash with a >>>>>>> 1-off error on unpacking. > >>>>>> If your shopping basket had been designed by a C >>>>>> programmer, its initial state would be the state just >>>>>> before the zeroth item was inserted. That suggests >>>>>> that initially the basket contains -1 items. > >>>>> "So I said to him, 'Moore, have you less than no apples >>>>> in that basket?"..." > >>>> False, of course. > >>> Hard to tell definitively without empirical observation. >>> Let's toss an apple in and see if any remain in the >>> basket after we don't take any more out. > >> If the basket contained a (large) unknown negative number >> of apples this method could be quite expensive. I propose >> to weigh the basket, then tip the negative apples out of >> the basket and weigh it again. Calculate the difference >> and divide it by an average weight of an apple. This >> method works reasonably well unless the basket also >> contains some negative watermelons. > > In which case it's long since achieved escape velocity and > is no longer our problem. Hah! Objects with negative weight do not need escape velocity to escape to space. They can ascend slowly with impressive majestic grace. pjk > > Brian
From: Cheryl on 28 Feb 2010 05:49 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Feb 27, 4:58 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:48:14 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote in >> <news:02dc31c7-bbee-4dd6-8c8f-f915da3acdab(a)g7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> >> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >>> On Feb 27, 1:40 pm, "sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com" <sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> [...] >> >>>> Until you offer a definition of "Christian" with an >>>> explanation and evidence as to why it's superior to >>>> those generally accepted by lexicographers, there's not >>>> really much left to discuss.- >>> Again I point out, as a linguist, that lexicographers have >>> no special handle on truth, especially as concerns >>> technical terminology. >> But 'Christian' is very far from being exclusively a >> technical term. > > When it concerns Christians' official definitions of what constitutes > a Christian, it certainly is. Some Christians take the view that the final determination of whether someone is or is not a Christian will take place at some later date, when the sheep are separated from the goats by Christ Himself. Therefore, any official definitions in the here and now are of distinctly secondary importance. I know, I know, a lot of others can't let go of the desire to know Right Now, and particularly want to know whether or not that really irritating neighbour is In or Out. And some people who aren't Christians by any definition of the word like to know for some reason or other, probably ranging from simple curiosity to the wish to identify a group to study or poll, who is and is not Christian. -- Cheryl
From: jmfbahciv on 28 Feb 2010 08:59
Robert Bannister wrote: > jmfbahciv wrote: >> Robert Bannister wrote: >>> J. Clarke wrote: >>> >>>> Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered >>>> busing has most kids riding the bus to school anyway, so what >>>> difference does it make? >>> >>> They have to walk to and from the place where the bus stops and often >>> have to wait. >> >> They still have to do that in the dark no matter which leaps we make >> the clocks go. >> >> /BAH > > But not for so much of the year. That's what bugs me personally about > the the change: I am a morning person; I get up at 5:30 and try to > arrive at the gym before 6:15. I know that for quite a few months of the > year, I will have to do this in the dark, but it is so refreshing when > (without daylight saving) we get those few months of light, plus at that > time of the morning, it's usually still pleasantly cool before the > thermometer goes soaring up. I'm sure light has a beneficial effect on > children too, but that sitting in a school bus in the afternoon during > the hottest part of the day is not a good thing. > I like to get up when the light turns on. When I lived in Mass., this was at a reasonable time such as 06:00 in the winter. In Michigan, which is in the same time zone, the light doesn't turn on until after 08:00. I also like it to be dark when I go to bed at 20:30 or so. /BAH |