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From: David Harmon on 28 Feb 2010 14:09 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote, >As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on >President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices. http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp
From: Peter T. Daniels on 28 Feb 2010 14:11 On Feb 28, 1:04 pm, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > On Feb 28, 1:30 am, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > >> Are you suggesting that some (often disinterested) government > >> official would have more reliable sources of detail of the birth? > > > I'm observing that over here, birth certificates are done in the > > hospital (presumably for home etc. births there are equivalent > > provisions) and signed by witnesses on the spot, not a week later. > > > What about folks who didn't get baptized? > > Admittedly it's a while since we used the baptismal certificate system > as a kind of proxy version of government public statistics, but I think > you could use sworn statements from reputable people who knew you and > were identifiable about the fact that you were existed and born in X on Y.. > > Mind you, there were holes in the system the way it was practiced here > in the old days. Even if you had been baptised if, as happened fairly > often, the local church and all the records burned, you could establish > a couple different birth dates by various alternate methods, which some > people found rather handy. > > It got harder and harder after years of claiming in writing you were > born in one year to receive something that required you to have been > born in another year, though. Actually I was thinking of all those babies who got banished from Limbo by Benny 16. If they're not counted on earth, and they don't count in heaven, what's a heaven for?
From: Skitt on 28 Feb 2010 14:12 Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > "Skitt" writes: >> Peter T. Daniels wrote: >>> "Skitt" wrote: >>>> It made our helpers happy, and no believers were harmed in the >>>> process. Why, I even joined the YMCA, as it was our official >>>> sponsor. The YMCA had great pool tables and a table tennis >>>> facility, so all was not lost. >>> >>> I don't think you have to be Christian (or Young) to use the YMCA >>> ... >> >> Not to use, but there was some sort of commitment that had to be >> expressed to join the Y. > > If so, they changed their policy by the time I started taking swimming > lessons there in the '60s. My family were members, but we wouldn't > have made any statement that expressed an affiliation with > Christianity. I was referring to the 1949-1953 period. Things may have changed since then. Their Web site still mentions: Our Mission: To put Christian principles into practice through programs that build healthy spirit, mind and body for all. [snip] I was also a Ragger (of the blue sort). http://www.phantomlakeymca.com/raggers.html Again, that was top please our sponsor. Besides, when we first came to the USA, we lived in the Upper Lodge of the YMCA Camp near Boulder Creek. Our family was part of the staff there. -- Skitt (AmE)
From: Peter T. Daniels on 28 Feb 2010 14:14 On Feb 28, 11:49 am, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote: > "Skitt" <skit...(a)comcast.net> writes: > > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > >> "Skitt" wrote: > >>> It made our helpers happy, and no believers were harmed in the > >>> process. Why, I even joined the YMCA, as it was our official > >>> sponsor. The YMCA had great pool tables and a table tennis > >>> facility, so all was not lost. > > >> I don't think you have to be Christian (or Young) to use the YMCA ... > > > Not to use, but there was some sort of commitment that had to be > > expressed to join the Y. > > If so, they changed their policy by the time I started taking swimming > lessons there in the '60s. My family were members, but we wouldn't > have made any statement that expressed an affiliation with > Christianity. > > Or perhaps it varied by Y. > > >> you certainly don't have to be Jewish (or male) to use the YMHA; > >> the 92nd St. Y is one of New York City's great cultural > >> institutions. (They don't seem to use the MHA in their name any > >> more.) > > Their web pages still say > > 2010 92nd Street Young Men's and Young Women's Hebrew Association > > but I suspect that the "Hebrew" euphemism (from latter half of the > nineteenth century) is considered just too archaic. Outside of New > York, most became "Jewish Community Centers" (JCCs or J's) in, I > believe, the '20s. I didn't know whether it started out as a YMHA or a YWHA, and I had to dig down into the "history" page to find anything but "Y" used as its name.
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 28 Feb 2010 15:38
Robert Bannister <robban1(a)bigpond.com> writes: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >> On 23 Feb 2010 17:41:22 -0800, R H Draney >> <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote in >> <news:hm204201q19(a)drn.newsguy.com> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >>> Robert Bannister filted: >> >>>> The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I >>>> get very ratty when politicians force me to get up in >>>> the dark more often than need be, whereas I think >>>> dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside. >> >>> Quite right...I had breakfast yesterday at noon, and >>> dinner at midnight....r >> That sounds about right, though my dinner might well be >> later than that. > > This reminds me of difficulties I had in reading some Russian > novels: "breakfast" was 2-4 pm, supper at midnight and dinner in the > early hours of the morning. Well, they *are* in a different time zone. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |If all else fails, embarrass the 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |industry into doing the right Palo Alto, CA 94304 |thing. | Dean Thompson kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ |