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From: Mike Barnes on 22 Feb 2010 14:54 R H Draney <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net>: >Adam Funk filted: >> >>On 2010-02-21, António Marques wrote: >> >>> On Feb 21, 1:09 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>> But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0 >>>> = Sunday. >>> >>> Ahem. In low level, pointer oriented languages such as C and its >>> family. And those who chose to imitate it. >> >>From Verity Stob's "Thirteen Ways to Loathe VB": >> >> 4. Another thing about arrays. The index of the first element is 0, >> unless it is set to 1 by a directive. >> >> 5. But there are also collections, modern object-oriented versions >> of arrays. And the first element of these is usually 1, unless >> it happens to be 0. Sometimes it is 0 and sometimes it is 1, >> depending on where you found it. Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, >> do ya? > >In APL, indexing starts at one unless you've explicitly set it to zero by >setting the system variable quad-IO....r In Perl, indexing starts at zero unless you've explicitly set it to one by setting the system variable $[. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England
From: Adam Funk on 22 Feb 2010 15:08 On 2010-02-22, Mike Barnes wrote: > R H Draney <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net>: >>In APL, indexing starts at one unless you've explicitly set it to zero by >>setting the system variable quad-IO....r > > In Perl, indexing starts at zero unless you've explicitly set it to one > by setting the system variable $[. I like the notes in _Programming Perl_: (Mnemonic: [ begins subscripts.) Assignment to $[ ... is discouraged. -- I don't know what they have to say It makes no difference anyway; Whatever it is, I'm against it! [Prof. Wagstaff]
From: Adam Funk on 22 Feb 2010 15:07 On 2010-02-22, R H Draney wrote: > In APL, indexing starts at one unless you've explicitly set it to zero by > setting the system variable quad-IO....r "quad-IO" ... are you winding me up? -- Do you know what they do to book thieves up at Santa Rita? http://www.shigabooks.com/indeces/bookhunter.html
From: Adam Funk on 22 Feb 2010 15:18 On 2010-02-22, Adam Funk wrote: > On 2010-02-22, R H Draney wrote: > >> In APL, indexing starts at one unless you've explicitly set it to zero by >> setting the system variable quad-IO....r > > "quad-IO" ... are you winding me up? Just remembered that that means "#IO", therefore arguably no sillier than "$[". Never mind. -- Usenet is a cesspool, a dung heap. [Patrick A. Townson]
From: Adam Funk on 22 Feb 2010 15:27
On 2010-02-22, Androcles wrote: > "Michael Stemper's blunder" is a contraction of "Michael Stemper, his > blunder". You see the latter construction in some C.17 English, but it was based on a folk etymology or hypercorrection (or a combination of the two) of "Michael Stemper's blunder". -- The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. [Robert R. Coveyou] |