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From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 07:56 Trond Engen wrote: > Peter T. Daniels skrev: > >> On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister >>> <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote in <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> >>> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >>> >>>> Brian M. Scott wrote: >>>> >>>>> R H Draney wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>>>> Daylight Saving Time.... >>>>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >>>>> >>>>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all year round. >>>> >>>> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you change your mind. >>> >>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >>> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >>> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >>> benefit of as much daylight as possible. >> >> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school in the dark. > > Huh? That would give them two months leave each winter. > <grin> /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 08:02 J. Clarke wrote: > On 2/23/2010 11:54 AM, sjdevnull(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> On Feb 23, 9:36 am, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> On 2/23/2010 8:39 AM, sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>>> On Feb 23, 6:19 am, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>>> Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered busing >>>>> has most kids riding the bus to school anyway >>> >>>> Court-ordered busing never affected a substantial fraction of US >>>> school children (it peaked at below 5%, IIRC) and since 1980 or so has >>>> been very limited. Post-2000, it's headed toward extinction. >>> >>> In what jurisdiction has it been discontinued? >> >> Most of them. >> >> See, e.g., >> http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/11/us/by-court-order-busing-ends-where-it-began.html?pagewanted=1 >> >> "CHARLOTTE, N.C., Sept. 10� The school system that pioneered busing >> for desegregation three decades ago was ordered today to halt the >> program by a Federal judge who ruled that forced integration was no >> longer necessary because all vestiges of intentional discrimination >> had disappeared." >> http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-52114978.html >> "DAYTON, Ohio (AP) _ A federal judge lifted a desegregation order >> Monday after the city agreed to spend at least $30 million to improve >> public schools, ending more than 25 years of cross-town busing >> designed to achieve racial balance in the schools." >> http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/views/y/1999/03/delaney.busing.mar18/ >> "Court-ordered busing ended in Boston in 1987." >> >> Feel free to Google more. > > Well praise de lawd, the courts are finally coming to their senses. So > are the kids in those towns now walking to the nearest school again? > > Of course not. You should be able to find the Boston school budget for transportation somewhere. It's millions and noone wants to stop doing that kind of business. All the kids in suburbs are bussed. there are even special buses for "special needs" kids; each one of them gets their own chauffeur. The only difference w.r.t. court-ordered busing was where the kids got dropped off. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 08:03 Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > António Marques <antonioprm(a)sapo.pt> writes: > >> jmfbahciv wrote (23-02-2010 12:28): >>> Andrew Usher wrote: >>>> Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so obviously the Right Way >>>> that I can't imagine why anyone would do it the other way. >>>> >>> You always count items starting with 0? >> It's a matter of stupid perspective. Since the array's position is the >> 'first', the 'first' element's position is the array's ('first') plus >> 0. First plus 0 = first! > > Why would you assume that the position of the first element is > necessarily identical to the position of the array? > Exactly. I sure hope these people aren't coding airplanes or metro transportation systems. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 08:11 Andrew Usher wrote: > Ant�nio Marques wrote: > >>>> Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so obviously the Right Way >>>> that I can't imagine why anyone would do it the other way. >>>> >>> You always count items starting with 0? >> It's a matter of stupid perspective. Since the array's position is the >> 'first', the 'first' element's position is the array's ('first') plus 0. >> First plus 0 = first! > > Indeed, indexing is not the same thing as counting. If I were creating > a non-computer _indexing_ system, I would start from 0 as well. > So what would you put in the zeroeth slot? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 08:13
Robert Bannister wrote: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister >> <robban1(a)bigpond.com> wrote in >> <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >>> Brian M. Scott wrote: >> >>>> R H Draney wrote: >> >>>> [...] >> >>>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>>> Daylight Saving Time.... >> >>>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >> >>>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >>>> year round. >> >>> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you >>> change your mind. >> >> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >> benefit of as much daylight as possible. > > The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I get very ratty > when politicians force me to get up in the dark more often than need be, > whereas I think dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside. > Yea. I'd rather the sun rise and set earlier. /BAH |