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From: Chuck Riggs on 24 Feb 2010 10:04 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:47:50 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote: >On Feb 23, 12:52�am, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:32:03 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote in >> <news:ad442cf6-ce22-4ffe-b05b-786b865fb3fc(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> >> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >> > On Feb 22, 10:55�pm, "Brian M. Scott" >> > <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. �As >> >> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >> >> of year in any climate at any latitude. �In winter at higher >> >> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >> >> disadvantages. �I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >> >> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >> >> benefit of as much daylight as possible. >> > The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school >> > in the dark. >> >> I hadn't noticed that DST would make much difference to that >> in many of the places that I've lived. > >Who was it said "I couldn't care less how dark it is in the morning"? I don't know, but Cher has been known to say "I could care less...". -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 24 Feb 2010 10:04 "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > On Feb 24, 3:13�am, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 23, 11:01 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:48:34 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >> >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote in >> >> <news:b635eda9-c279-4467-91f7-041a0adef830(a)g23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> >> >> in >> >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >> >> >> > On Feb 23, 12:27 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >> >> >> [...] >> >> >> >> I've hear it commented that daylight time was invented by an >> >> >> Amrican Indian who, finding his blanket too short to reach >> >> >> his chin, cut off the lower end of the blanket and sewed it >> >> >> onto the upper end. >> >> >> [...] >> >> >> > Is there a reason for attaching that story to a particular >> >> > ethnicity? [...] >> >> >> Quite possibly accuracy in reporting. >> >> > So if it were told about "Ol' Uncle Tom," that would be "accuracy >> > in reporting" too? >> >> If that's the way he heard it, sure. > > But since we know it's a tall tale, we know that it is not "true" or > "reportage." What the story tells us is that the most recent teller > has a low opinion of American Indians, Irishmen, or (in my > hypothetical), African Americans. What's "reportage" is the "I've heard it commented". If Dave, living in Arizona, has heard it told about Indians, then that's the tale he's reporting having heard. And the choice of ethnicity is an interesting part of the tale, giving insight into the attitudes of those who tell it (as distinct from those who merely report having heard it). -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |The look on our faces isn't confusion. 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |It's disbelief. Palo Alto, CA 94304 | | Jon Stewart kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: Chuck Riggs on 24 Feb 2010 10:13 On 23 Feb 2010 17:41:22 -0800, R H Draney <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote: >Robert Bannister filted: >> >>The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I get very ratty >>when politicians force me to get up in the dark more often than need be, >>whereas I think dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside. > >Quite right...I had breakfast yesterday at noon, and dinner at midnight....r Scrambled eggs and coffee at noon, is lunch just the same, IMO. The transition, the uncrossable barrier, is around ten. -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
From: Chuck Riggs on 24 Feb 2010 10:16 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:40:04 -0500, "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:19:21 +1300, PaulJK ><paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in ><news:hlvvbr$50g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in >sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >> Brian M. Scott wrote: > >>> R H Draney wrote: > >>> [...] > >>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>> Daylight Saving Time.... > >>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r > >>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >>> year round. > >> I would prefer if every 24 hour day was made longer by one >> hour, i.e. 25 hours long. [...] > >I'm not sure that 25 hours would be quite long enough. If you don't have a manic personality, which, in effect, extends the day, you could drink lots of coffee, I suppose. -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
From: Jerry Friedman on 24 Feb 2010 10:31
On Feb 24, 7:56 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:24:18 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: > >Michael Press wrote: > >> In article <7ufdetFoc...(a)mid.individual.net>, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> > >> wrote: > > >> [...] > > >>> But we still lack a February holiday, unless we have a big enough snowstorm. > > >> February is the cruelest month. > > >February is the longest month. I thought US had President's Day in > >February now. > > As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on > President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. .... Not even including community colleges, at least around here. -- Jerry Friedman |