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From: António Marques on 23 Feb 2010 23:06 On Feb 24, 1:14 am, Robert Bannister <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > Ant nio Marques wrote: > > It's not what you think. Either the Church's message is universal and > > Christ did found one Church, or it isn't. > > Now there's a new one: the first I've heard that Jesus founded or even > wanted a church. 'Church' has many meanings. I don't know which one(s) you're thinking of.
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 23 Feb 2010 23:11 Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> writes: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:38:57 +0800, Robert Bannister > <robban1(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > >>What I want to know is what do they do with all this daylight they've >>saved? I'm not getting it, and I think they're using my daylight for >>nefarious activities. > > Benjamin Franklin first proposed daylight time (it's not really > called Daylight *Savings* Time anymore). > > I've hear it commented that daylight time was invented by an > Amrican Indian who, finding his blanket too short to reach his > chin, cut off the lower end of the blanket and sewed it onto the > upper end. Apparently Irishmen worry more about their feet: The Irishman, who found his blanket too short to cover his legs, hit upon the clever expedient, for lengthening it, of cutting a piece from the top and sewing it on to the bottom. This is pretty much what Sir Robert Peel has done for the Amendment of the Corn Law; what he has cut off from the duty he has tacked on to the averages.--(1842) _The Life and Labours of Albany Fonblanque_, 1874 An excuse may be found for the learned Archbishop that he possessed a Hibernian intellect, which is known to suffer from singular and amusing aberrations, like that of the Irishman who, finding his blanket too short to cover his feet, cut off a portion from the top and sewed it on to the bottom. P.C. Sense, _A Critical and Historical Enquiry into the Origin of the Third Gospel_, 1901 -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |The purpose of writing is to inflate 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, Palo Alto, CA 94304 |and inhibit clarity. With a little |practice, writing can be an kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com |intimidating and impenetrable fog! (650)857-7572 | Calvin http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: Transfer Principle on 23 Feb 2010 23:12 On Feb 22, 6:02 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Transfer Principle wrote: > > There's a huge problem with the Usher leap year plan here. I > > can see why Usher would want to avoid leap years starting on > > Thursdays, since Easter, being 15 weeks after Christmas, > > would fall on April 4th such years, which is outside of the > > April 5-11 range given by Usher elsewhere in this thread. > One needs, to correct this, to sometimes have a shorter than 4-year > interval between leap years. This can be accomplished by inserting at > intervals, a shorter cycle as follows (using your notation): > Year 1: Friday (leap year) > Year 2: Sunday > Year 3: Monday > Year 4: Tuesday (leap year) > Year 5: Thursday > Year 6: Friday (leap year) > 7 17-year cycles and 1 of these make 30 leap years in 124, or a year > of 365+30/124 = 365.2419 days. OK, that will work. The revised Usher leap year plan is equivalent to two 62-year cycles as given on the two links I mentioned earlier, so one can check those links to see how accurate the new plan is. In particular, according to the second link, the Usher leap year plan will be accurate to within a day up until at least 2800, based on the mean autumnal equinox year.
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 23 Feb 2010 23:30 António Marques <antonioprm(a)sapo.pt> writes: > Adam Funk wrote (23-02-2010 20:02): >> On 2010-02-23, António Marques wrote: >> >>> "Roman Catholic" ISN'T AN OFFICIAL SELF-DESIGNATION. ANYWHERE. >> >> Are you going to write to all the churches in the UK with "St ____'s >> Roman Catholic Church" or "St ____'s R. C. Church" on their signs, >> newsletters, websites, etc., to tell them that they are wrong? (I >> think this is common in much of the USA too.) > > I doubt that that's their legal name where they have one. On what basis? If it's the name they put on their sign and on their web site, why would you assume that their "official" or "legal" name is something else? Would it give you any doubt if I were to point you to, say the articles of incorporation for "Our Mother of Sorrows Roman Catholic Parish - Tuscon": http://www.omosparish.org/DOT-ArtIncorp.pdf or the official latest annual financial report of "the Roman Catholic Dicoese of Brooklyn, NY": http://dioceseofbrooklyn.org/FinancialReport.aspx <URL:http://dioceseofbrooklyn.org/uploadedFiles/ About_The_Diocese_and_Our_Parishes/Diocesan_Administration/ Finance/AR%208-31-09%20Central%20Funds%20.pdf> -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |A little government and a little luck 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |are necessary in life, but only a Palo Alto, CA 94304 |fool trusts either of them. | P.J. O'Rourke kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 23 Feb 2010 23:32
Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> writes: > j...(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> >> I suspect that you could find people celebrating Pesach, Purim, >> >> Rosh Hashanah, and Yom Kippur in as many countries as any four >> >> Christian holidays. >> > >> > Well, yes, but not _more people_. >> > >> > Andrew Usher >> >> With roughly 1.3 billion Chinese alone, New Years is celebrated by >> a LOT more people. > > New Year is not among the holidays Kirshenbaum mentioned. Sure it was. It's right up there between Purim and Yom Kippur. > I exclude it from my consideration as by its nature it can't be > fixed to a particular day of the week. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Sorry, captain. Convenient 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |technobabble levels are dangerously Palo Alto, CA 94304 |low. kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ |