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From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 8 May 2007 20:46 In article <1178671372.864466.239140(a)w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Ka-In Yen <yenkain(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > On Apr 26, 6:43 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Apr 25, 4:17 pm, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > > Ka-In Yen wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bob Kolker, > > > > > > > Thank you for your comment. Pressure(p) is a scalar. > > > > > Force and area are vectors. > > > > > > Force can be represented by a vector. That is because forces have both > > > > megnitude and direction. Area cannot. Area is a measure. What is the > > > > direction of an area? > > > > > Let's check this equation Pressure = Force / Area. > > > If force is a vector and area is a scalar, then > > > pressure is a vector. This is a disaster of physical > > > mathematics. > > > > The only disaster is your freshman-level physics understanding. Quit > > trying to pull vectorial information from equations that are only > > valid in one dimension > > Force is a 3D vector. Are you this utterly clue-resistant? -- Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy singularity. COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 8 May 2007 20:52 In article <1178671529.135928.173470(a)u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Ka-In Yen <yenkain(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > On Apr 28, 9:00 am, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > On Apr 26, 6:43 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Finish your homework, or I will call your mami. > > Home work for Eric Gisse: > A rectangle sits in 3D space. The area vector of the rectangle is A, > and the legth vector of one side of the rectangle is L. Please find > the length vector of the other side of the rectangle? > > > Dear Puddleduck, > > Can you help Goose to finish his homework? Why, when you are doing a sterling job of showing your ignorance.... You never did define how the area vector is defined for an irregular area.... particularly one that lies on a curved surface, for example. mass as a vector! What does the DIRECTION of the mass vector represent? $10 fnlf V unir gb cnl sbe gur nafjre....! -- Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy singularity. COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).
From: Eric Gisse on 8 May 2007 21:03 On May 8, 5:42 pm, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > On Apr 26, 6:43 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 25, 4:17 pm, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > > Ka-In Yen wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bob Kolker, > > > > > > Thank you for your comment. Pressure(p) is a scalar. > > > > > Force and area are vectors. > > > > > Force can be represented by a vector. That is because forces have both > > > > megnitude and direction. Area cannot. Area is a measure. What is the > > > > direction of an area? > > > > Let's check this equation Pressure = Force / Area. > > > If force is a vector and area is a scalar, then > > > pressure is a vector. This is a disaster of physical > > > mathematics. > > > The only disaster is your freshman-level physics understanding. Quit > > trying to pull vectorial information from equations that are only > > valid in one dimension > > Force is a 3D vector. Yes, force is a vector [Drop the 3D nonsense]. This is known. The freshman physics formulae [all of which I have derived in more general situations] that you use are only true in one dimensional cases. Your way of generalizing to higher dimensions is wrong, but not nearly as wrong as concluding all physicists are stupid because you never went past introductory physics. I thought Asians were supposed to be good at mathematical based sciences?
From: Ka-In Yen on 10 May 2007 19:56 On May 9, 8:46 am, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <1178671372.864466.239...(a)w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, > Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 6:43 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 4:17 pm, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > > > Ka-In Yen wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bob Kolker, > > > > > > > Thank you for your comment. Pressure(p) is a scalar. > > > > > > Force and area are vectors. > > > > > > Force can be represented by a vector. That is because forces have both > > > > > megnitude and direction. Area cannot. Area is a measure. What is the > > > > > direction of an area? > > > > > Let's check this equation Pressure = Force / Area. > > > > If force is a vector and area is a scalar, then > > > > pressure is a vector. This is a disaster of physical > > > > mathematics. > > > > The only disaster is your freshman-level physics understanding. Quit > > > trying to pull vectorial information from equations that are only > > > valid in one dimension > > > Force is a 3D vector. > > Are you this utterly clue-resistant? Again, let's check this equation pressure = force / area. Force is a 3D vector and pressure is a scalar, therefore area is a 3D vector. <area> = <force> / pressure
From: Eric Gisse on 10 May 2007 22:44
On May 10, 4:56 pm, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > On May 9, 8:46 am, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > In article <1178671372.864466.239...(a)w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, > > Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > > On Apr 26, 6:43 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 25, 4:17 pm, Ka-In Yen <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > > > > Ka-In Yen wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bob Kolker, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your comment. Pressure(p) is a scalar. > > > > > > > Force and area are vectors. > > > > > > > Force can be represented by a vector. That is because forces have both > > > > > > megnitude and direction. Area cannot. Area is a measure. What is the > > > > > > direction of an area? > > > > > > Let's check this equation Pressure = Force / Area. > > > > > If force is a vector and area is a scalar, then > > > > > pressure is a vector. This is a disaster of physical > > > > > mathematics. > > > > > The only disaster is your freshman-level physics understanding. Quit > > > > trying to pull vectorial information from equations that are only > > > > valid in one dimension > > > > Force is a 3D vector. > > > Are you this utterly clue-resistant? > > Again, let's check this equation pressure = force / area. > Force is a 3D vector and pressure is a scalar, therefore > area is a 3D vector. > <area> = <force> / pressure ....and this is why you would fail an introductory physics course. Stop generalizing from equations that are true in only one dimension. |