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From: PD on 23 Apr 2010 17:56 On Apr 23, 4:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I have another one you can not explain: > > - How is mass not conserved? > > Answer is: > > - Mass is conserved. > Ah, what fun. Here's one for you: How is color not conserved? Answer is: Color is conserved. Along the lines of: How is the number of rhinos not conserved? Answer is: The number of rhinos is conserved. See how easy it is to just make a half-assed assertion and demand proof that it's wrong? You can keep people busy all day making half-assed assertions and daring them to respond. That is, if they pay any attention to you. Ta-ta! Enjoy your half-assed day!
From: mpc755 on 23 Apr 2010 18:02 On Apr 23, 5:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 23, 4:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I have another one you can not explain: > > > - How is mass not conserved? > > > Answer is: > > > - Mass is conserved. > > Ah, what fun. Here's one for you: > How is color not conserved? > Answer is: > Color is conserved. > > Along the lines of: > How is the number of rhinos not conserved? > Answer is: > The number of rhinos is conserved. > > See how easy it is to just make a half-assed assertion and demand > proof that it's wrong? > You can keep people busy all day making half-assed assertions and > daring them to respond. > > That is, if they pay any attention to you. > > Ta-ta! Enjoy your half-assed day! Explain how what you choose to believe physically occurs in nature: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is different than Maxwell's displacement current - Mass is not conserved. The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter. - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current. - Matter and aether are different states of the same material. In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether. Mass is conserved. Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current. http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/ Quote from Albert A Michelson's lecture circa 1899. "Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an aether displacement to the electric current, aether vortices to the atoms; if we continue these suppositions, we arrive at what may be one of the grandest generalizations of modern science, namely that all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations of the various modes of motion of one all-pervading (substance), the aether. The day seems not to distant when the converging lines from many apparently remote regions of thought will meet on some common ground. Then the nature of the atom and the forces called into play in their chemical union, the interactions between these atoms and the non-differentiated aether as manifested in the phenomena of light and electricity , the structure of the molecule, the explanation of cohesion, elasticity and gravitation, all of these will be marshaled into a single compact and consistent body of scientific knowledge." I would modify the statement to read: "all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations of the various states of one all-pervading (substance), the aether." http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html Albert Einstein: "the state of the former is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" I would modify the statement to read: The state of the aether as determined by the connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. You must have missed this post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. For example, in the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment There are waves propagating both the red and blue paths towards D0. One of the downgraded photon 'particles' is traveling either the red or blue path towards D0. The lens causes the waves to create interference which alters the direction the particle travels. One set of downgraded photons is creating one of the interference patterns at D0 and the other set of downgraded photons is creating the other. It's all very easy to understand once you realize 'delayed-choice', 'quantum eraser', and the future determining the past is simply misinterpreting what is occurring in nature. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are creating at D0. Figures 3 and 4 here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Experiments which will provide evidence of Aether Displacement: Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is different than Maxwell's displacement current - Mass not conserved. The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter. - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current. - Matter and aether are different states of the same material. In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether. Mass is conserved.
From: spudnik on 23 Apr 2010 18:16 let's explain what should be clear, minus some arcane idea of Nettikkut: both my reply to you, and a snip of your post, were within the first ten lines of mine. so, you don't have to be a literary critic (and, whether or not you have *tried* to read Shakespeare, is another matter). whether it looks like rambling, it is merely sucessive self-publishing of one day's thoughts on sci. **** ... and, if you don't know any spherical trig, a la color plate one in _S_, you might as well forget "it." http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/synergetics.html > > with ships & materiel) -- what the Revolution was about -- not just, > > Taxation without representation, a la the Tea Party effetes and > > the Encyclopedia Brittaninca! > > as they say, the bears make money, the bulls make money, and > > the hogs always get slaughtered. > > none of the (two) experts, I have read or asked, > > thought that a Carbon Tax wouldn't work as well, just that > > it was somehow politically impossible. thus: if some one gave a *reason* to redefine twins, that'd be "mathematical" (proviso: math is four subjects, at minimum). as for the idea of calling AP, an ultrafinitist, I only have two things to say: a) it wouldn't make any difference to him, being a user of "E-prime," the joke-language of Korbizynski (sp.?); b) the Monster group's symmetry has a factoring that is awfully similar to Bucky's here-to-fore silly finite base for computation. > "prime," "twin prime," etc., to be as interesting as one in > which sets can have nonzero infinitesimal measure. --Light: A History! http://wlym.com
From: PD on 21 Apr 2010 16:26 On Apr 21, 2:28 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Apr 20, 5:17 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Dear spudnik: While I was a student at Clemson, I attended two > lectures (in different years) of Robert B. Fuller. He was a 'head-in- > the-clouds' guy. But I learned that "nature" doesn't construct things > with curves. The reason pi is an infinitely repeating decimal is > because circles are actually (in nature) constructed of short straight- > line segments rather than curves. And the number of segments will > always a whole number. NoEinstein > Oh my. So in your mind, rational numbers and irrational numbers do not correspond to anything in reality. Only integers. So, where on a water droplet falling from the sky, are these straight- line segments? And when the Earth orbits the sun, how often does it make a quick turn at a corner between two straight-line segments? And what kicks the Earth from one segment to the next? You know you've lost your mind, right? PD
From: NoEinstein on 24 Apr 2010 01:08
On Apr 23, 1:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear mpc755: Michelson was a very nice, detail-oriented man. But he lacked some critical analytical abilities. In Berlin, at Maxwell's urging, he 'tested' a low-cost version of his new interferometer design. Apparently, he lived next to a train station, so the interference fringes got obliterated by the vibrations, frequently. Michelson showed his general lack of analytical abilities by not realizing that the few seconds, to maybe a minute, in which he could see the interference rings (or bands) he should have been able to generalize that his design wasn't working as a detector of velocity. Instead, he figured that his instrument wasn't precise enough, or vibration free enough, to detect the supposed (sic) drag of the ether on the velocity of light. That same book has an illustration in back that shows a professional quality pen-and-ink perspective drawing of the M-M apparatus, that is located in a basement of what is now Case Western Reserve University. Of course, the precise version of the interferometer didn't work to detect velocity changes in light, either. Michelsonbeing a basically naive mentalitydecided to construct a 'mile long' interferometer near the University of Chicago. That instrument, too, failed to detect velocity changes in the light. Michelson showed both his humor, and his deceptiveness, by taking advantage of the optics alignment issues with the mile-long, to create the illusion that he had... detected the 'sine curve' he hoped to see. The reason he could do so, was because the mile-long was at a fixed location that couldn't be rotated. He realized that by selecting the right times of the day or night to plot the oscillations of the fringe pattern about the optical center of the instrument, he could cause the plotted points to approximate a sine curve. Someone with my analytical ability easily realized that he had selected the times of day to FAKE getting positive results. But I'm not laughing that he was a deeply honest man, nor very smart. I do applaud him for designing the Mt. Wilson interferometer to determine THE most accurate out-and-back measurement of the velocity of light (in air); and his most accurate measurement, in terms of the wavelength of light, of the length of the official METER stick in England. He would have been a great partner for constructing my own interferometer designs that DO detect Earth velocity in the cosmos. But not because of ether... drag on light. There is no such drag! NoEinstein > > On Apr 23, 12:01 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Apr 22, 10:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear mpc755: I read that delightful little book in which A. A. > > Michelson wrote the quote you cite. My "varying ether flow and > > density" is the unifying discovery in all of nature. Michelson would > > be thrilled that I found out why his experiment didn't work (no > > control), and thrilled that I have found the grand unification > > mechanism for all of nature. The latter is varying pressure and > > velocity, much like in weather systems on Earth. But the ether ISN'T > > displaced by matter! Ether flows THROUGH matter, only to be slowed by > > the nuclei, in proportion to the mass. When you can realize that > > fact, you and I will be on the same track. NoEinstein > > In the quote Michelson discuss aether displacement, "an aether > displacement to the electric current". This is conceptually the same > as Maxwell's displacement current. > > If aether is 'slowed down' when it interacts with a nucleus then that > is due to its being displaced by the nuclei. > > A better term for the interaction of aether and matter is to describe > the aether as 'localized' by the matter. > > If a single nucleus is moving with constant momentum then the aether > is exerting equal pressure to each and every part of the nuclei. This > equal pressure is due to the nuclei displacing the aether. This equal > pressure is due to the aether 'displacing back'. The 'displacing back' > is the pressure the aether exerts towards the nuclei. > > The greater the constant momentum the more aether is displaced by the > nuclei the greater the aether 'displaces back'. This is what causes > the pressure to vary depending upon momentum. > > Once you add the concept of displacement to your theory you will then > understand what is causing the aether to 'slow down', or more > correctly to be more 'localized'. > > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 10:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 22, 6:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear mpc755: Other than the FACT that matter doesn't displace ether, > > > > you make several statements that are true. Give up that > > > > "displacement" idea of yoursit won't hold water (PUN intended!). > > > > NE > > > >http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/ > > > > Quote from Albert A Michelson's lecture circa 1899. > > > > "Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an > > > aether displacement to the electric current, aether vortices to the > > > atoms; if we continue these suppositions, we arrive at what may be one > > > of the grandest generalizations of modern science, namely that all the > > > phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations > > > of the various modes of motion of one all-pervading (substance), the > > > aether. The day seems not to distant when the converging lines from > > > many apparently remote regions of thought will meet on some common > > > ground. Then the nature of the atom and the forces called into play in > > > their chemical union, the interactions between these atoms and the > > > non- > > > differentiated aether as manifested in the phenomena of light and > > > electricity , the structure of the molecule, the explanation of > > > cohesion, elasticity and gravitation, all of these will be marshaled > > > into a single compact and consistent body of scientific knowledge." > > > > I would modify the statement to read: > > > > "all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different > > > manifestations of the various states of one all-pervading (substance), > > > the aether." > > > >http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html > > > > Albert Einstein: > > > > "the state of the former is at every place determined by connections > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" > > > > I would modify the statement to read: > > > > The state of the aether as determined by the connections with the > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |