From: NoEinstein on
On May 3, 12:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 9:01 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 27, 10:16 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  Several times before you have referenced
> > Newton's ERRANT F = ma.
>
> Ah, excellent, just so it's clear. You're problem then isn't with
> Einstein and the physics of the 20th century. It's with all of physics
> since the 1600's. Basically, it's just ALL plain wrong, everything
> that is taught to schoolchildren from the 3rd grade on. And you, in
> your infinite genius, have discovered this by the power of reason.
>
> > Most equations that contain a "mass" can be
> > changed to be a UNIT mass of one pound (or whatever).  The "textbook"
> > definition of MOMENTUM is F = mv.
>
> I'm sorry, but that equation appears in no textbook anywhere.
> If you disagree, cite the textbook and the page number.
>
> > The latter mass can also be changed
> > to be a unit mass of one pound (or whatever).  SO... Since both
> > equations are forces,
>
> First of all, you just said it was an equation for momentum (though
> you got it wrong), not a force.
>
> Good heavens, John, you've gotten confused two equations for two
> different quantities, you can't even get one written down right and
> you call the other one wrong.
>
> You're a mental case, John.
>
>
>
> > set the right half of the two equations to be
> > EQUAL, or: ma = mv.  Since the masses are both one pound unit masses,
> > then, the resulting equation says: ACCELERATION = VELOCITY!  Even an
> > imbecile like you, PD, should realize that velocity, (or say) feet/
> > sec, isn't the same as feet/second EACH second!
>
> > Ironically, I was studying for college physics when I realized the
> > conflict between those two equations.  That same week, I concluded
> > that the entire chapter on mechanics was screwed up.  Newton' "Law",
> > in words, says:  For every uniform force, there is one and only one
> > associated acceleration.  The correct equation for that should have
> > been F = a, provided, of course, that the relationships between those
> > two variables are stipulated, or are included in a less generalized
> > equation.
>
> > The equation for MOMENTUM, F = mv, is correct!  For objects in free
> > fall, or objects that are accelerating, the correct kinetic energy
> > formula is my own: KE = a/g (m) + v / 32.174 (m).  The latter replaces
> > both “KE = 1/2mv^2” and “E = mc^2 / beta”.  What contributions have
> > YOU made to science, PD?  Ha. ha, HA!  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dear PD: A thin "College Outline Series" book (that fits into the
bookcase behind my computer chair) entitled "Physics", by Clarence E
Bennett, states on page 19: "G. Momentum and Impulse. (1.) Momentum
is defined as the product of the mass times velocity (mv)..." The
letter F is used for momentum, because the equation defines forces. —
NoEinstein —
From: Timo Nieminen on
On Mon, 3 May 2010, NoEinstein wrote:

> Instead of trying,
> vainly, to run me down for not jumping at your suggestion that I do
> costly experiments, realize that there are only 24 hours in a day.

Can you read? I didn't suggest that you do any experiments.

> You, and any others, are at liberty to perform Henry Cavendish or
> other type experiments in support of my New Science!

Yes. This is what I said. What I asked is how large is the effect that
needs to be measured.

If you don't care to say, then I won't do the measurement. Not my problem
if your theory doesn't get supported.

You don't care to discuss science at all, or even discuss your theory. All
you want to do is post long essays to distract from having your numerical
errors pointed out, and post abuse and rudeness. So, do your own
experiments if you want them done; it clearly isn't worth expending any
effort to try to help you.

From: mpc755 on
On May 3, 9:29 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:21 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On May 2, 4:24 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 26, 10:54 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear mpc755:  "Wrong is WRONG, no matter who said it!"  — NoEinstein —
>
> > You have your own definition of 'aether drag' which is different than
> > what is generally accepted.
>
> Dear mpc755:  It is 'generally accepted' that no one (until yours
> truly) has found the one, simple energy-force mechanism that will
> explain everything in the Universe.  So, if anything is... "generally
> accepted" that would be a near certain PROOF that such is WRONG!
> "Varying ether flow and density" accounts for: light; gravity; the EM
> force; mass; inertia; weight; all chemical reactions; all biological
> constructs; and every object(s) or effect(s) ever observed.
> Understand the ether, and its 'tangles' and 'untangles', and you will
> know the Universe!  — NoEinstein —
>

I am not debating the correctness of 'aether drag'. I am simply
pointing out that your definition of 'aether drag' is different than
how it is defined by everyone else.

The definition everyone, besides yourself, accepts for 'aether drag'
is the aether is dragged by matter due to its connections with the
matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_drag_hypothesis

"According to the aether drag hypothesis light propagates in a special
medium, the aether, that remains attached to things as they move."

The pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions towards the
matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "space
effectively ‘flows’ towards matter".

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displacement creates pressure.
Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.

Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047

"There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity
for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter
level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam
system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that
gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the
informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence
space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter. However this is not a ‘flow’
of some form of ‘matter’ through space, as previously considered in
the aether models or in the ‘random’ particulate Le Sage kinetic
theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the
quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a
geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the ‘flow’ in
one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not
relative to some a priori background geometrical space"

What is described as "space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter" is the
pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter.

"Then the ‘flow’ in one region is relative only to the patterns in
nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby
regions displaced by the matter.
From: mpc755 on
On May 3, 9:42 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 3, 12:53 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On May 3, 12:43 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 9:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear mpc755:  Space is like an any module x, y, and z grid system.
> > > Those don't... FLOW.  But of course you can set the origin at any
> > > place in the grid that you choose.  — NE —
>
> > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047
>
> Dear mpc755:  Substitute 'this' for the garbage, above, that you
> linked to: "Gravity is the (downward) force of flowing ether—which
> upon impinging on the nuclei of atoms—is proportional to the mass of
> the objects.  The (downward) flowing ether gets replinished by the
> outward emissions of photons or charged particles which carry out some
> of the adjacent ether caught in the flow."  — NoEinstein —
>

Aether is displaced based on mass per volume. The more massive a
nuclei is the more aether it displaces. Aether is not at rest when
displaced and 'displaces back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure
the aether exerts towards the matter.

The pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions towards the
matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "space
effectively ‘flows’ towards matter".

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displacement creates pressure.
Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.

Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047

"There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity
for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter
level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam
system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that
gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the
informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence
space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter. However this is not a ‘flow’
of some form of ‘matter’ through space, as previously considered in
the aether models or in the ‘random’ particulate Le Sage kinetic
theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the
quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a
geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the ‘flow’ in
one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not
relative to some a priori background geometrical space"

What is described as "space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter" is the
pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter.

"Then the ‘flow’ in one region is relative only to the patterns in
nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby
regions displaced by the matter.
From: mpc755 on
On May 3, 9:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 3, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear mpc755: As Ronald Reagan liked to say: "There you go again!"  You
> said: "Because "this is not a ‘flow’ of some form of ‘matter’ through
> space, as previously considered in the aether models". The aether does
> not 'flow' towards matter to cause gravity. The author was unable to
> figure out that what he was best able to describe as a 'flow' is the
> pressure exerted by the displaced aether in nearby regions towards the
> matter."
>
> Fellow, my correct explanation for the mechanism of gravity—well-
> explained at the beginning of this post, and throughout—isn't an
> invitation for you, or others, to keep proposing your science
> nonsense.  Since so much of the latter has been written, it's not hard
> to find someone to agree with you (ha!).  In true science, the only
> person who has to agree with you is ME—and I DON'T agree!  So, stop
> repeating stuff that is wrong!  — NoEinstein —
>

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
I named this material mæther.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displacement creates pressure.
Gravity is pressure exerted by æther displaced by matter.

The pressure exerted by the æther in nearby regions towards the
matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "[æther]
effectively ‘flows’ towards matter".

Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047

"There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity
for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter
level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam
system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that
gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the
informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence
space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter. However this is not a ‘flow’
of some form of ‘matter’ through space, as previously considered in
the aether models or in the ‘random’ particulate Le Sage kinetic
theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the
quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a
geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the ‘flow’ in
one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not
relative to some a priori background geometrical space"

What is described as "space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter" is the
pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter.

"Then the ‘flow’ in one region is relative only to the patterns in
nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby
regions displaced by the matter.