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From: BURT on 4 May 2010 15:26 On May 4, 5:38 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 4, 6:36 am, "H.Y. ADDANDSTUFF" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 3, 9:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 3, 9:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On May 3, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear mpc755: As Ronald Reagan liked to say: "There you go again!" You > > > > said: "Because "this is not a flow of some form of matter through > > > > space, as previously considered in the aether models". The aether does > > > > not 'flow' towards matter to cause gravity. The author was unable to > > > > figure out that what he was best able to describe as a 'flow' is the > > > > pressure exerted by the displaced aether in nearby regions towards the > > > > matter." > > > > > Fellow, my correct explanation for the mechanism of gravitywell- > > > > explained at the beginning of this post, and throughoutisn't an > > > > invitation for you, or others, to keep proposing your science > > > > nonsense. Since so much of the latter has been written, it's not hard > > > > to find someone to agree with you (ha!). In true science, the only > > > > person who has to agree with you is MEand I DON'T agree! So, stop > > > > repeating stuff that is wrong! NoEinstein > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > I named this material mæther. > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > Displacement creates pressure. > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by æther displaced by matter. > > > > The pressure exerted by the æther in nearby regions towards the > > > matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "[æther] > > > effectively flows towards matter". > > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby > > > regions displaced by the matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > If - this statement is used to open an exact proof p = np, if this is > > true or false, do this. > > = is equals, != equals not > > { is open function, } is close function > > //comments here and more there > > <!---// starts the script, //---> closes it.http://meami.org/ > > No ifs. Just the most correct unified theory to date. > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > I named this material mæther. > Aether is displaced by matter. > Displacement creates pressure. > Gravity is pressure exerted by æther displaced by matter. > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > The pressure exerted by the æther in nearby regions towards the > matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "[æther] > effectively flows towards matter". > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby > regions displaced by the matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I challenge that your theory is correct. It means nothing to claim most correct. It is wrong in some way and of course that is the problem. Most correct does not cut it. And you can't prove that is true either. You are just making a claim. Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on 4 May 2010 15:36 On May 4, 2:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > What occurs physically in nature to cause and electromagnetic field to > have momentum? > Aaaaaaaaand..... once again we have Little Lord Fauntleroy with his usual patter of "What? I've never heard of that! I demand that you explain to me what is physically happening to make this possible, explained in a way that I can believe. If you don't bow to my demand, I will add it to my famous List Of Demands You Have Not Bowed To, and then accuse you of being delusional. Meanwhile, I will refuse to believe anything on this List. Furthermore, I will insist that my two-line Theory of the Whole Universe Plus Tapioca Pudding is the best explanation of It All, for which one day I will be famous. Thpfpfpfpfpfpffftt!"
From: PD on 4 May 2010 15:36 On May 4, 2:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I challenge that your theory is correct. It means nothing to claim > most correct. It is wrong in some way and of course that is the > problem. Most correct does not cut it. And you can't prove that is > true either. You are just making a claim. > > Mitch Raemsch And when Mitch, even Mitch, can see right through you, MPC, then it should be plain that you've fooled no one.
From: mpc755 on 4 May 2010 15:50 On May 4, 3:36 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 4, 2:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > What occurs physically in nature to cause and electromagnetic field to > > have momentum? > > Aaaaaaaaand..... once again we have Little Lord Fauntleroy with his > usual patter of > > "What? I've never heard of that! > I demand that you explain to me what is physically happening to make > this possible, explained in a way that I can believe. > If you don't bow to my demand, I will add it to my famous List Of > Demands You Have Not Bowed To, and then accuse you of being > delusional. > Meanwhile, I will refuse to believe anything on this List. > Furthermore, I will insist that my two-line Theory of the Whole > Universe Plus Tapioca Pudding is the best explanation of It All, for > which one day I will be famous. > Thpfpfpfpfpfpffftt!" Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature. If you can't explain it then its dogma: - The future determines the past - Virtual particles exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is different than Maxwell's displacement current - Mass is not conserved. - An electromagnetic field to have momentum. The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter. - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the analogous to Maxwell's displacement current. - Matter and aether are different states of the same material. In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether. Mass is conserved. - An electromagnetic field has momentum due to the connections between the matter and the aether. An electromagnetic field is caused by a change in the aether's state of displacement. This is what Maxwell referred to as a displacement current. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible. In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
From: mpc755 on 4 May 2010 15:56
On May 4, 3:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 4, 5:38 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 6:36 am, "H.Y. ADDANDSTUFF" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 3, 9:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 3, 9:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > On May 3, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear mpc755: As Ronald Reagan liked to say: "There you go again!" You > > > > > said: "Because "this is not a flow of some form of matter through > > > > > space, as previously considered in the aether models". The aether does > > > > > not 'flow' towards matter to cause gravity. The author was unable to > > > > > figure out that what he was best able to describe as a 'flow' is the > > > > > pressure exerted by the displaced aether in nearby regions towards the > > > > > matter." > > > > > > Fellow, my correct explanation for the mechanism of gravitywell- > > > > > explained at the beginning of this post, and throughoutisn't an > > > > > invitation for you, or others, to keep proposing your science > > > > > nonsense. Since so much of the latter has been written, it's not hard > > > > > to find someone to agree with you (ha!). In true science, the only > > > > > person who has to agree with you is MEand I DON'T agree! So, stop > > > > > repeating stuff that is wrong! NoEinstein > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > I named this material mæther. > > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > > Displacement creates pressure. > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by æther displaced by matter. > > > > > The pressure exerted by the æther in nearby regions towards the > > > > matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "[æther] > > > > effectively flows towards matter". > > > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > > > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby > > > > regions displaced by the matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > If - this statement is used to open an exact proof p = np, if this is > > > true or false, do this. > > > = is equals, != equals not > > > { is open function, } is close function > > > //comments here and more there > > > <!---// starts the script, //---> closes it.http://meami.org/ > > > No ifs. Just the most correct unified theory to date. > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > I named this material mæther. > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > Displacement creates pressure. > > Gravity is pressure exerted by æther displaced by matter. > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > The pressure exerted by the æther in nearby regions towards the > > matter doing the displacing is described, inadequately, as "[æther] > > effectively flows towards matter". > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby > > regions displaced by the matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I challenge that your theory is correct. It means nothing to claim > most correct. It is wrong in some way and of course that is the > problem. Most correct does not cut it. And you can't prove that is > true either. You are just making a claim. > > Mitch Raemsch One of the problems with physics today is everyone is right or wrong. That is a completely incorrect way of looking at physics. Look at the problem trying to understand and answer the simple thought experiment I propose: While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. No one has been able to answer what occurs physically in nature in the above because the C-60 molecule, as conventional 'wisdom' has it, creates the interference pattern in and of itself. As you understand, the moving particle has an associated aether wave. The moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether displacement wave is the most correct explanation for the observed behaviors to date. I use 'most correct' and 'to date' to leave the door open for the next person who figures out a more correct explanation. That doesn't mean there will be or won't be a more correct explanation put forth in the future, just that we should be cognizant of it and allow the next more correct explanation a chance to be heard and to succeed on its own merits, not just refuted simply for the fact that it is different. SR, GR and LET are all correct. AD is more correct. |