There is no “pull” of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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From: PD on 25 Mar 2010 15:16 On Mar 25, 2:04 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 2:54 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 2:25 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done. > > > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > > > Then you, sir, are no scientist, nor will you ever be one. > > > > Experiments are performed to consult nature on what the answer is. > > > > > Since you claim to be able to read the future, by knowing the outcome > > > > of experiments before they are performed, you should be able to > > > > provide a compelling physical explanation of how you know the future, > > > > without relying on absurd nonsense like the future determining the > > > > past. > > > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > > > nature. > > > Nice. So not only can you see the future, but you are omniscient, as > > well. > > It is simply an understanding of the physics of nature which allows me > to know what will occur physically in nature when the experiments are > performed. > My previous remarks stand, mpc. You have ceased to be amusing and have now become both pathetic and contemptible. Good luck to you in your ventures. I'm sure you'll be able to work your divine power to acquire the crown you crave.
From: NoEinstein on 25 Mar 2010 15:21 On Mar 24, 4:35 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 24, 3:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 22, 4:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear mpc755: Why don't you or PD make a '+new post'? Then, you could > > argue back-and-forth without bothering anyone. NE > > John, when you post here, you are implicitly agreeing to the terms of > use of this newsgroup and the group charter. If you do not wish to > comply with the terms of use, then you should not use the group. If > you continue to use the group while abusing the terms of use, you will > be reported to your internet service provider and to Google groups, > and your service may be terminated. Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: Just as I use my intellect and reasoning abilities to understand science, I use my moral judgment to know that you have no business pestering me and 'confusing' the readers. Your stupid lies about what is what in science are like an anchor to science progress in this country and in the world. You do not have a single positive thing to recommend you. IF you think that your mixed- bag-of-garbage about science is what the readers wish to hear, make a '+new post' stating your beliefs. You'll be amazed at how quickly the readers stop doing so.. If only YOU would stop, permanently. NoEinstein
From: NoEinstein on 25 Mar 2010 15:22 On Mar 24, 4:38 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > PD, that was YOUR mistake! NE > > On Mar 24, 3:29 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 22, 5:24 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Alright, fool. Show me where I said anyone or anything looks out > > "windows" on GPS satellites? NE > > You didn't. MPC775 did. I was responding to HIS post, not yours. You > do know how to read the quoting attributions on a newsgroup post, > don't you? You don't? Then why are you here? > > > > On Mar 22, 3:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 22, 4:10 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 22, 2:20 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Mar 21, 2:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Admit it, PD, you don't have the brain needed to explain anything. > > > > > > > Your only 'talent' is in sidestepping the logical requests of others, > > > > > > > and running-down those who do have a brain. Give your opposing > > > > > > > 'theory' of what gravity is, or shut up. NoEinstein > > > > > > > Hey, that sounds like an idea. > > > > > > > Explain how you think gravity works, PD. > > > > > > Make it short and simple so a public school > > > > > > kid could understand it. > > > > > > Sure. Space is not flat. Straight lines that start out parallel are > > > > > not parallel for very long in our universe. > > > > > Because the state of the aether is determined by its connections with > > > > the matter. > > > > > > They are only parallel on > > > > > very short scales, such as the very short scales for bridges and > > > > > buildings, but not at all on the scales between planets. If we > > > > > actually build a triangle out of straight beams on that time scale, we > > > > > will find that the angles of the triangle do not add up to 180 > > > > > degrees, although they get very, very close to that on the scale of > > > > > bridges and buildings. > > > > > Because the aether is displaced by the matter. > > > > > > Euclidean geometry says it's exact, but > > > > > Euclidean geometry does not give the answers we see in the real > > > > > universe. If your public school teacher tells you that the angles of a > > > > > triangle add up to 180 degrees in our universe, the teacher has told > > > > > you a *lie*. > > > > > The teacher needs to qualify the statement by stating to the students > > > > that it must be assumed the triangle is at rest with respect to the > > > > aether. > > > > > > This means that even things that are traveling in straight lines and > > > > > initially parallel to each other, with no external forces on them, > > > > > will soon diverge or converge. We can trace such straight lines with, > > > > > for example, light beams, which always travel in straight lines. And > > > > > we can see parallel light rays from distant galaxies bend toward each > > > > > other and cross, because it leaves a distinctive image just like a > > > > > lens would, even though there's no material lens between here and > > > > > there. > > > > > Because light waves propagate with respect to the aether. > > > > > > What makes space not flat is matter and energy. > > > > > Matter and aether. > > > > > > Where there is a lot > > > > > of matter > > > > > The state of the aether is determined by its connections with the > > > > matter. Where there is a lot of matter the state of the aether is less > > > > at rest then when there is less matter. > > > > > > and energy, there the space is less flat. Further away from > > > > > mass and energy, the space is flatter, but it never gets completely > > > > > flat before it starts to get close to another clump of matter and > > > > > energy and starts to get more unflat again. > > > > > before it starts to get close to another clump of matter and [aether] > > > > and starts to get more unflat again. > > > > > > We can calculate how unflat space is, if we know all the matter and > > > > > energy in the region. > > > > > matter and aether. > > > > > > To do this we use the same G that Newton put in > > > > > his equations, but we use a different equation instead. And if we know > > > > > how unflat space is, then we can calculate how fast parallel lines > > > > > will converge in that space, and therefore we can tell how fast > > > > > parallel light rays will converge or diverge in that region of space. > > > > > And if we actually do that calculation, we find that it agrees > > > > > spectacularly well with how convergent or divergent the light rays > > > > > actually are. This tell us that our calculation is right, and that the > > > > > connection between mass and energy and the unflatness of space is > > > > > right. > > > > > > We can do this for all sorts of things other than light, too. It gets > > > > > the right answer for everything we've tried where we have a real clear > > > > > knowledge of the mass and energy in the area. > > > > > > Now, a public school kid can certainly understand the above. In order > > > > > to *believe* what he understands, the kid will have to look up some of > > > > > the experimental measurements, so that he will say, "Sonofagun, it > > > > > really works that way." There will be some idiots, though, who will > > > > > understand the above but say "Bullshit. I don't believe it, and you > > > > > can't make me look at the measurements, so to hell with you." There > > > > > will be other poor fools who can't even read and understand the above > > > > > paragraphs that are understandable by a public school student -- > > > > > there's not much one can do about those poor fools. > > > > > The students will especially understand the above when it is mentioned > > > > to the the aether is displaced by the matter. > > > > All this from the guy who was thinking that Observers look out the > > > windows of GPS satellites at the distant stars.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: PD on 25 Mar 2010 15:26 On Mar 25, 2:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Mar 24, 4:35 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 24, 3:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Mar 22, 4:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear mpc755: Why don't you or PD make a '+new post'? Then, you could > > > argue back-and-forth without bothering anyone. NE > > > John, when you post here, you are implicitly agreeing to the terms of > > use of this newsgroup and the group charter. If you do not wish to > > comply with the terms of use, then you should not use the group. If > > you continue to use the group while abusing the terms of use, you will > > be reported to your internet service provider and to Google groups, > > and your service may be terminated. > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: Just as I use my intellect and reasoning > abilities to understand science, I use my moral judgment to know that > you have no business pestering me and 'confusing' the readers. This is an unmoderated and open forum, John. If you are perpetually frustrated about lacking control in this environment, when you do not have control, don't you think it would be best to stop whining about it and take yourself to an environment where you won't be so frustrated? > Your > stupid lies about what is what in science There are no lies in what I've said. It is you that is inventing something OTHER THAN science, something you call New Science, because you do not care for what science says. But what I've said about science is absolutely true. > are like an anchor to > science progress in this country and in the world. You do not have a > single positive thing to recommend you. IF you think that your mixed- > bag-of-garbage about science is what the readers wish to hear, make a > '+new post' stating your beliefs. You'll be amazed at how quickly the > readers stop doing so.. If only YOU would stop, permanently. Dream on, John, it's not going to happen. Whining about it won't make it happen. > > NoEinstein
From: NoEinstein on 25 Mar 2010 15:29
On Mar 24, 4:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by a massive object.. > > > As far as you know... is a very small distance indeed!!!!! NE > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity. > > Each and every nuclei which is the matter which are the plates > displace the aether. The displaced aether of each plate encompasses > the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the > plates forces the plates together. > > When you get to something as massive as the Sun, the aether is > displaced to the outer reaches of the solar system. GET LOST, mpc755! Gravity (ether) flows THROUGH matter! That's why the force of gravity is mass proportional. Electrons swim in a soup of ether, and are likely just the crest of a revolving wave. If matter displaced ether (sic), then ether would be excluded and there would be no... "stuff" for matter to be made from. NoEinstein |