There is no “pull” of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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From: mpc755 on 25 Mar 2010 17:47 On Mar 25, 3:16 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 2:04 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:54 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:25 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done.. > > > > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > > > > Then you, sir, are no scientist, nor will you ever be one. > > > > > Experiments are performed to consult nature on what the answer is.. > > > > > > Since you claim to be able to read the future, by knowing the outcome > > > > > of experiments before they are performed, you should be able to > > > > > provide a compelling physical explanation of how you know the future, > > > > > without relying on absurd nonsense like the future determining the > > > > > past. > > > > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > > > > nature. > > > > Nice. So not only can you see the future, but you are omniscient, as > > > well. > > > It is simply an understanding of the physics of nature which allows me > > to know what will occur physically in nature when the experiments are > > performed. > > My previous remarks stand, mpc. You have ceased to be amusing and have > now become both pathetic and contemptible. > > Good luck to you in your ventures. I'm sure you'll be able to work > your divine power to acquire the crown you crave. If you were able to understand waves propagate available paths and particles travel a single path then what is occurring would be easily understood. For example, in the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment There are waves propagating both the red and blue paths towards D0. One of the downgraded photon 'particles' is traveling either the red or blue path towards D0. The lens causes the waves to create interference which alters the direction the particle travels. One set of downgraded photons is creating one of the interference patterns at D0 and the other set of downgraded photons is creating the other. It's all very easy to understand once you realize 'delayed-choice', 'quantum eraser', and the future determining the past is simply misinterpreting what is occurring in nature. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are creating at D0. Figures 3 and 4 here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Experiments which are evidence of Aether Displacement: Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter.
From: PD on 25 Mar 2010 17:49 On Mar 25, 4:47 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 3:16 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:04 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 2:54 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:25 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done. > > > > > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > > > > > Then you, sir, are no scientist, nor will you ever be one. > > > > > > Experiments are performed to consult nature on what the answer is. > > > > > > > Since you claim to be able to read the future, by knowing the outcome > > > > > > of experiments before they are performed, you should be able to > > > > > > provide a compelling physical explanation of how you know the future, > > > > > > without relying on absurd nonsense like the future determining the > > > > > > past. > > > > > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > > > > > nature. > > > > > Nice. So not only can you see the future, but you are omniscient, as > > > > well. > > > > It is simply an understanding of the physics of nature which allows me > > > to know what will occur physically in nature when the experiments are > > > performed. > > > My previous remarks stand, mpc. You have ceased to be amusing and have > > now become both pathetic and contemptible. > > > Good luck to you in your ventures. I'm sure you'll be able to work > > your divine power to acquire the crown you crave. > > If you were able to understand waves propagate available paths and > particles travel a single path then what is occurring would be easily > understood. > Why try to understand absurd nonsense?
From: mpc755 on 25 Mar 2010 17:50 On Mar 25, 3:29 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Mar 24, 4:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by a massive object. > > > > As far as you know... is a very small distance indeed!!!!! NE > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > > The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity. > > > Each and every nuclei which is the matter which are the plates > > displace the aether. The displaced aether of each plate encompasses > > the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the > > plates forces the plates together. > > > When you get to something as massive as the Sun, the aether is > > displaced to the outer reaches of the solar system. > > GET LOST, mpc755! Gravity (ether) flows THROUGH matter! That's why > the force of gravity is mass proportional. It is mass proportional because aether is displaced based on mass per volume. The more massive an object is per volume the less aether it contains, the more aether it displaces. > Electrons swim in a soup > of ether, and are likely just the crest of a revolving wave. If > matter displaced ether (sic), then ether would be excluded and there > would be no... "stuff" for matter to be made from. NoEinstein Matter and aether are different states of the same material. I have named this material mather. Matter is compressed mather and aether is uncompressed mather. Even though both matter and aether are the same material, matter is compressed mather and exists in and displaces the aether. There is a connectedness between the matter and aether. The state of the aether is determined by its connections with the matter. This is the aether's state of displacement.
From: mpc755 on 25 Mar 2010 17:52 On Mar 25, 3:42 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Photons don't have... "mass", because they don't give off photons. > Gamma rays DO give off photons and thus have mass. That is why atomic > decay LOWERS the atomic number. NoEinstein My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave in the aether which collapses and is detected as a quantum of mather.
From: mpc755 on 25 Mar 2010 17:59
On Mar 25, 5:49 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Why try to understand absurd nonsense? Describing a wave as propagating the available paths and a particle as traveling a single path is absurd nonsense? If you were able to understand a wave propagates the available paths and a particle travels a single path then what is occurring in a 'delayed choice quantum eraser' experiment would be easily understood. For example, in the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment There are waves propagating both the red and blue paths towards D0. One of the downgraded photon 'particles' is traveling either the red or blue path towards D0. The lens causes the waves to create interference which alters the direction the particle travels. One set of downgraded photons is creating one of the interference patterns at D0 and the other set of downgraded photons is creating the other. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are creating at D0. Figures 3 and 4 here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Experiments which are evidence of Aether Displacement: Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter. |