Tiller's "Intention Imprinting" Device?
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From: Winston on 28 May 2010 01:29 On 5/27/2010 8:24 PM, hamilton wrote: > On 5/27/2010 8:35 PM, Bob Gerber wrote: >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 15:25:37 -0700, Tim Wescott<tim(a)seemywebsite.now> >> wrote: >> >>>> Can anyone please tell me exactly what this circuit is, in electronic >>>> terms, and how it could possibly function as described in the linked >>>> report below? I'm no engineer, but I can share a guess. Short version: Random voltages present on the address and data pins of a Read Only Memory cause random values to be programmed into random locations of that device when it's Write Enable and power pins are toggled by an oscillator module. (If only they would ground the Chip Enable pin.) The user is asked to believe that the data programmed into the ROM are a direct result of the mental intent of the user during the 'imprinting' process rather than just random 'garbage data' produced by many different kinds of well-understood electrical noise. (Yes, it is a fraud.) Long version: 1) Starting at the top of the page, we see a conventional battery power / wall wart circuit. When the wall wart is plugged in, it charges the battery and powers the "Intention Imprinting" device. So far, so good. 2) The power switch drives a block that looks like it might be a square wave oscillator (from context). Then things get very squirrely. 3) Power is routed to a voltage divider that is connected to the inverting input of a single - rail op amp. The non-inverting input of that amplifier is tied to Vdd which means that the LED indicator will blink on when the oscillator finishes each Write command. This is unfortunate for at least three reasons. A) The circuit operates by forcing one Op-amp input pin above Vdd. All op amps are not guaranteed to work properly under these circumstances. B) There is no current limiting resistor in series with the LED, so it might not operate within it's 'safe area'. C) It is inefficient. You could delete the op-amp and the voltage divider and just connect the cathode of the LED to ground via a resistor. That's cheaper and works better. 4) The output of the 'oscillator' appears to power a Read Only Memory. The Address input pins and the data output pins appear to 'float'. That is, they are not connected to anything at all. This is very close to a cardinal sin because it makes the part very vulnerable to destruction via electro- static discharge and latchup because the voltage to the address and data pins are likely to be above Vdd during each Write cycle. 5) Luckily, the Chip Enable and Output Enable pins of the ROM are also floating, so we needn't worry that the levels on the Data Output pins mean anything at all. They won't. --Winston
From: Robert Baer on 28 May 2010 05:38 Tim Wescott wrote: > On 05/27/2010 02:54 PM, Bob Gerber wrote: >> Can anyone please tell me exactly what this circuit is, in electronic >> terms, and how it could possibly function as described in the linked >> report below? >> >> http://tillerfoundation.com/White%20Paper%20II.pdf >> >> Bill Tiller is a respected scientist, > > Not for long, if that's what he's shilling. > >> but I can't figure this one out. > > Well, it's like this: some people in the world have money. And some > people in the world are exceedingly gullible. And some of the people > who are exceedingly gullible have money -- for a while. And if you cook > up a good scam, and if you don't care much about your fellow man, then > you can be the one that gets the money that those gullible-with-money > people have. This converts _them_ into gullible-with-no-money people > (which you can tell yourself was going to happen anyway), and _you_ into > a successful con artist. > > I hope this helps your understanding. > This scheme actually WORKS?? Even tho the "schematic" is too damn fuzzy to read and a number of the "equations" are "written" with black rectangles? Perhaps one could use a fuzzier JPEG and get more money??
From: Robert Baer on 28 May 2010 05:41 tlbs101 wrote: > On May 27, 3:54 pm, bobger...(a)protonex.com (Bob Gerber) wrote: >> Can anyone please tell me exactly what this circuit is, in electronic >> terms, and how it could possibly function as described in the linked >> report below? >> >> http://tillerfoundation.com/White%20Paper%20II.pdf >> >> Bill Tiller is a respected scientist, but I can't figure this one out. >> >> Bob Gerber > > Mr. Gerber, > After skimming through the paper and reading parts, here-and-there, I > started laughing out loud. The more I read, the funnier it got. > > The schematic does absolutely nothing. Neither do the modifications > mentioned cause the circuit to do anything. I am not even sure if the > LED will light because I cannot read the values of the resistor > divider for the opamp. Nor would any "normal" opamp drive 20 mA to > light a "normal" LED. > > The whole thing is most definitely a scam. > > Tom P. One DOES NOT need 20MA to light a LED!!! The majority of LEDs i have fiddled with give reasonable light at 1mA - well within the capabilities of most op amps. Get your facts straight!
From: keithw86 on 28 May 2010 08:50 On May 28, 4:41 am, Robert Baer <robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote: > tlbs101 wrote: > > On May 27, 3:54 pm, bobger...(a)protonex.com (Bob Gerber) wrote: > >> Can anyone please tell me exactly what this circuit is, in electronic > >> terms, and how it could possibly function as described in the linked > >> report below? > > >>http://tillerfoundation.com/White%20Paper%20II.pdf > > >> Bill Tiller is a respected scientist, but I can't figure this one out. > > >> Bob Gerber > > > Mr. Gerber, > > After skimming through the paper and reading parts, here-and-there, I > > started laughing out loud. The more I read, the funnier it got. > > > The schematic does absolutely nothing. Neither do the modifications > > mentioned cause the circuit to do anything. I am not even sure if the > > LED will light because I cannot read the values of the resistor > > divider for the opamp. Nor would any "normal" opamp drive 20 mA to > > light a "normal" LED. > > > The whole thing is most definitely a scam. > > > Tom P. > > One DOES NOT need 20MA to light a LED!!! > The majority of LEDs i have fiddled with give reasonable light at 1mA > - well within the capabilities of most op amps. > Get your facts straight! Right, and 20mA Iout opamps are easy to come by, if you really need to light a room.
From: Winston on 28 May 2010 10:09
On 5/27/2010 10:29 PM, Winston wrote: > On 5/27/2010 8:24 PM, hamilton wrote: >> On 5/27/2010 8:35 PM, Bob Gerber wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 15:25:37 -0700, Tim Wescott<tim(a)seemywebsite.now> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Can anyone please tell me exactly what this circuit is, in electronic >>>>> terms, and how it could possibly function as described in the linked >>>>> report below? > > > I'm no engineer, but I can share a guess. > > Short version: > Random voltages present on the address and data pins > of a Read Only Memory cause random values to be > programmed into random locations of that device when > it's Write Enable and power pins are toggled by an > oscillator module. > (If only they would ground the Chip Enable pin.) > > The user is asked to believe that the data > programmed into the ROM are a direct result of the > mental intent of the user during the 'imprinting' > process rather than just random 'garbage data' > produced by many different kinds of well-understood > electrical noise. (Yes, it is a fraud.) It is not a ROM, of course. It is a battery - backed Random Access Memory. Please substitute 'Random Access Memory' and 'RAM' for each instance of my phrases 'Read Only Memory' and 'ROM'. We now return you to the circus already in progress. --Winston |