From: Bill Sloman on
On Dec 25, 6:55 pm, Fred Abse <excretatau...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:21:45 -0800,Bill Slomanwrote:
> > On Dec 24, 10:23 am, Fred Abse <excretatau...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:16:37 -0800,Bill Slomanwrote:
> >> > Very possibly, but the EMI-Marconi system was the first fully
> >> > electronic television system to be used in regular broadcasting, which
> >> > is to say that it was the first practical system.
>
> >> True. However it was the fruit of the labors of many more individuals than
> >> Blumlein. Projects of this nature are a team effort. I believe some input
> >> came from contributors at A. C. Cossor, and others.
>
> >> I believe the original Marconi-EMI system used cameras based around
> >> Zworykin's Iconoscope tube, which incorporated some of Farnsworth's ideas.
>
> > Sure. Everybody stands on the shoulders of giants. Blumlein covered a
> > lot of ground in his relatively short life - he's like Einstein in
> > physics, in that when you are digging into something new stuff you run
> > a fairly high risk of running into the name. You do wonder whether it
> > was a relative, but with those two it never is.
>
> I've often wondered how different things might have been if he'd survived..

When I worked at EMI-Central Research they had a lot of very clever
engineers, and too many very British managers, who understood business
much better than the engineers - or at least very differently from the
engineers.

Since EMI went bust a few years later it would seem that the managers
weren't quite as uniquely gifted as they seemed to think. I imagine
that they could have wasted Blumlein's talents as effectively as they
wasted everybody else's.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: JosephKK on
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:08:39 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:53:50 -0500, Phil Hobbs
><pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>>On 12/22/2009 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>> http://www.analog-europe.com/212700488;jsessionid=2EYNK2XDSG2HZQE1GHOSKHWATMY32JVN?pgno=1
>>>
>>> George Philbrick
>>> Bernard Gordon
>>> Jim Solomon
>>> Barrie Gilbert
>>> Bob J. Widlar
>>> Bob Pease
>>> Jim Williams
>>> Dennis Monticelli
>>> Tom Hornak
>>>
>>> pity about
>>>
>>> Alan Dower Blumlein
>>>
>>> apparently the fact that he never worked in the USA means that
>>> inventing the first practical televison and stereo systems doesn't
>>> count. He had 128 patents when he died when a bomber carring a
>>> protoptye of the H2S radar crashed on landing in 1942.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
>>>
>>
>>Don't forget Mitch Ratcliffe the radio guy, Robert Watson-Watt the radar
>>guy, the unnamed heroes at Mullards who designed the Hanbury-Brown
>>correlator, Fred Terman the network analysis guy, Edwin Armstrong the
>>FM, superhet, and superregen guy, Thomas Edison the diode guy.....
>>
>>Analog folks all.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Phil Hobbs
>
>Jim Solomon... intellectual thief that I once worked for at Motorola.
>
>In a paper he claimed that he designed the multiplier (Gilbert's cell)
>until the academic community descended on him.
>
>Now I note he claims creation of the BiFET OpAmp... my Master's thesis
>was the first. Looks like he took my work to National with him and
>claimed it as his own.
>
>Slowman is the same kind of thief.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

I thought there was some "unknowns" in Slowmans list. Phil Hobbs selections
should certainly bump some of those bill listed.