From: SM on
Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote:

> > You're using the 4870 with dual screens - are they DVI and is everything
> > OK apart from the Aperture 3 glitch above?
>
> I had to buy the single mini display to DVI adapter for the second
> screen.
>
> Yeah, except for the one panic I mentioned that had its kext in the
> path.

That's encouraging

> > The second is the GTX 285 being not much more expensive but with 1GB.
> > Anyone here using a EVGA GeForce GTX 285?
> >
> > A big plus for the 4870 is people using them seem happy which isn't
> > always the case with G5 and Mac Pro cards.
>
> Yebbut, to be clear, mine is a Pro 1,1 (1st generation 2.66Ghz dual
> dual) which Apple still says the 4870 is not intended for.

Seems it's a stroke of luck that the 4870 has the 32bit and 64bit EFI so
it'll work in 1st gen *and* later Pros.

My Pro is a 2nd gen - I think I'll start a thread about the GTX 285 in
the hope someone will have one in use.

Stuart
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From: eastender on
In article <0001HW.C7B8354F013935E7B02919BF(a)news.individual.net>,
Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote:


> It's got 5 USB ports!

They're rather fiddly though as they're so close together and if you've
got an audio splitter plugged into the headphone socket it gets rather
crowded...

E.
From: Rowland McDonnell on
Debbie Wilson <djmaizels(a)mac.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > They're a lot less bother if you stick 'em under the desk, and then
> > apply carpet off-cuts here&there underneath the desk as a
> > sound-deadener. The high-frequency nastiness gets clobbered pretty well
> > that way.
>
> It is already under the desk :-)

Ah, but it's the added carpet that clobbers the higher frequency
components that make the noise really /really/ annoying rather than just
really annoying.

I first played the trick on an old external HDD - a cunningly ducted
carpet plinth (nothing but carpet and Copydex, with ducts, honest) for
air intake and outflow; and internal application of sound deadening foam
did wonders.

> This is the G4 model that Apple actually issued new fan units for as the
> first one sounded exactly like having a vacuum cleaner operating next to
> your ear.

Yeah, I had one of them.

> This has the so-called 'improved' fan installed.

The replacement fans had a less intrusive noise, but not much quieter, I
always thought - main fan and replacement CPU (with two fans built in),
yeah?

> I think I
> would have to put it inside a carpet-lined cupboard in the next room to
> shut it up completely :-)

Not necessarily in the next room - I seriously considered putting mine
in a carpet-lined box, but the effort involved in arranging for a decent
quiet external blower to maintain air flow struck me as too much to
bother with.

[snip]

> > I wish my old 2G4 had lasted this long...
>
> I'm amazed this one has, TBH. I've had a small handful of 'grey screens
> of death' over the years, replaced the battery once, maxed out the RAM
> and added a 2nd HD and new graphics card. Plus used it 14 hrs/day, every
> day. Hoovered out the cat fur and dust from time to time. It's certainly
> been value for money.

Good-oh. Mine worked (mostly) until one day the graphics card fan
packed up and took out a CPU and lots of RAM in the process, who knows
how?

Rowland.

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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On 5 Mar 2010 10:45:05 GMT, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

>David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>> With Valve's Steam rumoured to be appearing on the Mac soon, there
>> will
>> be more Mac games and they are more likely to be up to date in future.
>
>Am I correct in thinking that if I bought Portal through Steam running
>in a VM, then when (if) Steam comes to the Mac, I can just redownload
>Portal with the same account and without re-paying?

YES!

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/08/valve-confirms-mac-support-for-steam-and-source-engine/

Happy happy joy joy.

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Gavin Lawrie on
On 2010-03-06 14:08:19 +0000, Gwynne Harper said:

> Gavin Lawrie <gavin.lawrie(a)2gc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've not tried, but apparently you can get some PC versions
>> of ATI 4870 card to work in MacPro - but AFAIK Apple no longer sell an
>> upgrade card that works in MacPro 1,1 (something to do with the 1,1
>> having 32bit EFI, and later versions having 64bit or some such). So if
>> latest graphics cards are your thing probably not best option.
>
> It appears that the Mac version of the 4870, although unsupported, works
> well in a gen 1 MacPro. This is not a theoretical interest for me, as
> my X1900 is overheating again - fed up with it, to be honest.
>
> <http://store.apple.com/uk_edu_5000702/product/MB999ZM/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OT>
>
> There are performance comparisons all over Barefeats.com
>
>
> Gwynne

Thanks all for the info on 4870 in 1,1. Encouraging. I'll go looking
for one - maybe one will crop up on eBay or some such sometime soon.
Springing �250 for a card from Apple itself seems alot...

Gavin

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