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From: Michael A. Terrell on 11 Jul 2010 01:28 "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: > > I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-) When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup generators, and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks, about half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything and come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less fuel available, next time. Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the better part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a highway. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: amdx on 11 Jul 2010 12:12 > > Can you evacuate ahead of time? Sometimes they don't let trailers on > the road when it's down to crunch time. If you're retired, then > that's not a problem as long as you don't mind evacuations. It's also > a hell of a lot easier to evacuate a day or two before crush. I once > spent 12 hours driving 120 miles. Drank a twelve pack of cokes, > smoked a half dozen cigars. For a good chunk of the trip, there were > cars in both lanes (2 lane road), both shoulders, and some in the > ditches. > > Pete Keillor The big problem with evacuating is that you have to wait until the police decide you can return to your own home. They block the highway to returning traffic. I was new to Fl. when Opal came, it was headed away from us when we went to bed, when we got up it was "let's get out of here". The relatives said "follow us" We got about 3 miles before the traffic was backed up. It was still 8 miles to get to the four lane highway. I waited a while and then turned around and headed for home. Mike
From: z on 11 Jul 2010 15:25 "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in news:7r2dnSP9ZPLjy6TRnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > > "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >> >> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-) > > > When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were > stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup generators, > and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so > it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now > that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks, about > half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the > tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything and > come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less > fuel available, next time. > > Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the better > part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a > highway. > > You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be staying here anyway. As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river. It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators) My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo. Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding. You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess) best of luck -z
From: daestrom on 12 Jul 2010 17:40 z wrote: > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in > news:7r2dnSP9ZPLjy6TRnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > >> "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >>> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-) >> >> When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were >> stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup > generators, >> and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so >> it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now >> that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks, > about >> half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the >> tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything > and >> come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less >> fuel available, next time. >> >> Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the > better >> part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a >> highway. >> >> > > > You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and > earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be > staying here anyway. > > As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river. > > It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got > enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators) > > My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house > -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo. > Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house > is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding. > > You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with > all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must > be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess) > And all we worry about here is the power going out for a day or two in sub-zero weather. Use a natural gas stove and fireplace, keep the pantry full and have a can of gas for the snowblower when the lake-effect finally subsides. That's about it. I remember being in Mobile AL, when hurricane Frederick came through back in '79. We bugged out and were fine, but when we came back we went without power for a couple of weeks. Hardest part was driving around to find a gas station that had a genny and getting a bag of ice each day from the Red Cross for the cooler to keep a couple of things cold. (we were newlyweds so we didn't really need a TV :-) daestrom > best of luck > > -z
From: krw on 12 Jul 2010 19:22
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:40:03 -0400, daestrom <daestrom(a)twcny.rr.com> wrote: >z wrote: >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in >> news:7r2dnSP9ZPLjy6TRnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: >> >>> "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >>>> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-) >>> >>> When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were >>> stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup >> generators, >>> and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so >>> it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now >>> that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks, >> about >>> half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the >>> tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything >> and >>> come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less >>> fuel available, next time. >>> >>> Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the >> better >>> part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a >>> highway. >>> >>> >> >> >> You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and >> earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be >> staying here anyway. >> >> As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river. >> >> It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got >> enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators) >> >> My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house >> -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo. >> Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house >> is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding. >> >> You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with >> all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must >> be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess) >> > >And all we worry about here is the power going out for a day or two in >sub-zero weather. Franlkly, I worried far more about that than I do from Hurricanes here. It happened to me three times, once was just a furnace malfunction and an incompetent service company. >Use a natural gas stove and fireplace, keep the pantry full and have a >can of gas for the snowblower when the lake-effect finally subsides. >That's about it. When we were in Vermont we had a wood stove and oil -> gas furnace. The wood stove would heat the whole house, when it was down to -20F or better. I never had to use it for long, but it was nice to have as a backup. A cord of wood lasted me five years, so I wasn't used much and I always had plenty of wood. >I remember being in Mobile AL, when hurricane Frederick came through >back in '79. We bugged out and were fine, but when we came back we went >without power for a couple of weeks. My plan is to bug out and come back when the power is back. We're ~200mi from the gulf, so I don't expect to get the brunt of hurricanes. >Hardest part was driving around to >find a gas station that had a genny and getting a bag of ice each day >from the Red Cross for the cooler to keep a couple of things cold. (we >were newlyweds so we didn't really need a TV :-) ;-) |