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From: RoyJ on 26 Jun 2010 10:12 JosephKK wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:36:39 -0500, RoyJ <Spamless(a)microsoft.com> wrote: > >> Good comment about testing fully loaded. I just picked up a 20 kw >> electric furnace heating assembly. I'll derate it by running the >> elements on 120 rather than 240, makes for a nice switch selectable 5 kw >> load bank. The OP could make do with 2 or 3 stove burner elements. >>> Also when you wake up at 3AM worrying about mice, consider doing a >>> exercise run of the generator set. Run for about an hour or so (fully >>> loaded) at least every 30 days, and at critical times, maybe every two >>> weeks. Also don't forget to keep the battery charged! (and to have >>> fuel, lots of fuel, on hand...) > > Check the _actual_ draw on the heater assembly at 120 V (with proper air > or water running through it). It may turn out to be anywhere from 2 kW > to 10 kW. I did a quick check when I got the unit: Each element is rated 2500 watts at 240v. That would be 625 watts at 120. I measured the cold resistance on a couple of them at 23.1 ohms and 23.8 ohms, ran one of them on 120 line voltage, measured 122 volts, 5 amps, 612 watts on a real wattmeter. I was surprised it was that close to the rated specs. The good part was that it runs cool enough that a fan is not mandatory.
From: Gunner Asch on 26 Jun 2010 13:41 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:05:42 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: >> Put a nice well made minimum 3/8" chain though the top lifting loop and >> secure it with an Abus lock, around something very hard to cut. >> >> Nice rigs like this..tend to disappear to Mexico/etc etc >> >> Gunner >> > Yes Gunner, My thought is, once I park it, I'll put it up on blocks and >take the wheel/tires off and store those elsewhere. > Mike Then you wont have a portable generator. Just one on a simple slab. I think you will find uses for the welding application this Very nice machine will provide for you. It is also capable of running a MIG gun as well as stick and TIG Shrug...I have always had a very strong "what if" world view, and try to set up things to reflect the changing world. Shrug...each to their own. Nice machine. Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch
From: amdx on 26 Jun 2010 14:30 -- MikeK "Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:kpec269bgrdd6qtivdnu93qqf373gah5kj(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:05:42 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: > >>> Put a nice well made minimum 3/8" chain though the top lifting loop and >>> secure it with an Abus lock, around something very hard to cut. >>> >>> Nice rigs like this..tend to disappear to Mexico/etc etc >>> >>> Gunner >>> >> Yes Gunner, My thought is, once I park it, I'll put it up on blocks and >>take the wheel/tires off and store those elsewhere. >> Mike > > > Then you wont have a portable generator. Just one on a simple slab. > When a hurricane comes I'll put the wheels back on, then I can push it closer to the house for use. > I think you will find uses for the welding application this Very nice > machine will provide for you. It is also capable of running a MIG gun as > well as stick and TIG > > Shrug...I have always had a very strong "what if" world view, and try to > set up things to reflect the changing world. > Me too, that's why I bought a welder instead of a generator. I figured a low hrs welder would be worth more than a low hrs generator. > Shrug...each to their own. > > Nice machine. > > Gunner > > One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, > in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers > and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are > not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. > Gunner Asch
From: m II on 26 Jun 2010 14:55 vaughn wrote: > Actually, the situation is not nearly so simple. In terms of the BTU's of heat > that are pumped out of the freezer into the room, they are the *very same* heat > BTUs that leaked from the room into the freezer. So that turns out to be a > wash. Not to pick nits....but... The temperature in a room with a fridge or freezer in it will rise. That means more energy expended to keep the fridge contents cool which makes the room warmer yet...etc. It's a good thing kids contribute to entropy by leaving room doors open. mike
From: vaughn on 26 Jun 2010 16:29
"m II" <c(a)in.the.hat> wrote in message news:4c264d30$1(a)news.x-privat.org... > vaughn wrote: > >> Actually, the situation is not nearly so simple. In terms of the BTU's of >> heat >> that are pumped out of the freezer into the room, they are the *very same* >> heat >> BTUs that leaked from the room into the freezer. So that turns out to be a >> wash. > > Not to pick nits....but... > > The temperature in a room with a fridge or freezer in it will rise. > That means more energy expended to keep the fridge contents cool which > makes the room warmer yet...etc. First, you haven't added anything material to the conversation yet, so you certainly are not guilty of "picking nits". Second, I did not dispute that the temperature in the room will rise (until the AC comes on and pumps the heat out) The freezers will emit waste heat from the motors. Vaughn |